Good Ol' Mass Produced, $9 twelve pack

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by JDW4195, Jun 16, 2015.

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What's your pick of these fine beverages that helped forge America?

  1. Budwieser

  2. Coors Banquet

  3. Miller MGD

  4. Miller High Life

  5. Natural Ice

  6. Rolling Rock

  7. PBR

  8. Keystone

  9. Jacob Best

  10. Old Milwaukee

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  1. SomethingClever

    SomethingClever Grand Pooh-Bah (4,871) Feb 22, 2013 Ohio
    Pooh-Bah

    I voted Zima :flushed::stuck_out_tongue::grinning:
     
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  2. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Interesting question - without delving too deep into the library, here's a quick look at it:

    1911
    AB sold 1.57 million bbl. of beer, about 2.4% of the US total of 63.3 million bbl, and employed 6,000 workers in St. Louis and another 1,500 at it's "branches" (wholly-owned "distributors"). source: 1912 AB ad.

    The United Brewery Workmen in 1912 had 625,000 members* - mostly working in breweries, before the union expanded to cover soft drink bottlers, malt and grain mill employees and similar workers. And a small percentage of brewery employees were represented by craft unions (Stationary Engineers, Firemen, Coopers, etc), and the drivers (some working at brewery branches) were sometimes members of the relatively new Teamsters (a jurisdictional conflict that would not be settled until the 1970s when the IBT absorbed most of the locals of what was left of the old Brewery Workers).​

    So, roughly, AB brewed 2.4% of the beer and employed about 1.2% of the unionized workers in the industry. Brewing, unlike most of the mass industries of that era, was considered 100% organized in the pre-Pro Era.
    Fully 95% of all eligible brewery workmen (in 1908) belonged to the UBW"
    . * Labor Unions, Fink, 1977.

    As one would suspect, the economies of scale and efficiency of the million barrel brewers (AB, Schlitz, Pabst) meant that while they brewed a lot of beer and employed a lot of workers, the smaller brewers still employed more on a "barrels per employee" basis, even in the pre-Pro era. An aspect of the industry that would become even more extreme in the post-Repeal Era and, of course, the Craft Era, when modern, super-efficient, multi-million barrel capacity automated breweries were built and operated by the national breweries.
     
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  3. JDW4195

    JDW4195 Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2014 Florida

    You sir, are welcome to comment on anything I write....ever
     
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  4. JDW4195

    JDW4195 Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2014 Florida

    It never ceases to amaze me how some people don't understand a joke and have to be a pretentious douche instead
     
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  5. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Oh, yeah :wink: and since I've got some reference books out already....

    This could be a bit of a stretch - especially by the end of the 19th century. Not a lot of info on the sources of corn used by breweries, and rice production in the US has a limited growing region (AB's rice traditionally came from nearby Arkansas and Louisiana, while Coors [when they still used rice] came from California), but barley production in the US by 1901 was concentrated in 7 Upper Midwest and Pacific coast states - growing 87% of the US barley crop, with California alone accounting for 25%. The only eastern state growing over 1 million bushels (of the 110m bu. US crop) was New York.

    While some brewers still did there own malting, it was a small minority* and the majority of brewers bought malt from local maltsters (that industry was much more geographically diverse than today, with malsters in 19 states - but still concentrated around the Great Lakes region) or, in some cases, from a local brewery's malt houses that had excess production.

    * Keep meaning to do a rough count of them...ah, next time it rains and I'm stuck indoors.​
     
  6. JDW4195

    JDW4195 Initiate (0) Sep 24, 2014 Florida

    For those who don't go back and read previous comments, I'll say it again. I could only add a certain amount of items to choose from. These are some that came to mind. I would have loved to add 20 or so beers, sorry 'bout that.
    For those who are saying these beers are trash, garbage, "I would never...", remember that taste is relative. There's a lot of people who would consider your precious Heady Topper a horrible tasting beer, or Canadian Breakfast Stout is syrup and not drinkable. I've taken more than a rash of shyte on here for saying I think the style of IPA is worthless, and I'd be willing to bet that some of you trashing this poll are the same one's saying "don't tell me IPA sucks, I love it." Drink what you like.
    For those of you dissecting this poll like it's meant to be some definitively accurate historical record of American triumph due to the greatness of beer....it's not. The line "that forged America" is sarcasm. C'mon man.
    For those of you saying "these types of threads shouldn't be on B/A". This website is called BEER advocate. Not, "We only talk about the rarest and most elusive beer possible, and if you don't conform we'll chastise you.com".
    Lastly, this is beer we're talking about here. Is this what our culture has come to? "I know more about beer than you" "No, no, you couldn't possibly know more than me". For those with honest, intelligent, non-confrontational input, I commend and thank you. That is how knowledge spreads, product awareness grows, and quality increases. I can appreciate all styles of beer, whether or not I like the taste or the century it was originally brewed. This poll was meant to be simple, fun, nostalgic for most of us, and to see who can still appreciate the simplicity of an American Lager. Thanks to everyone for participating, no matter what your input may have been. Most importantly....Cheers
     
  7. KentT

    KentT Pundit (839) Oct 15, 2008 Tennessee

    For lawn mower beer, I like Schlitz, Genesee Cream Ale (when I can get them). If not Naragansett or PBR will do.
     
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  8. PGD120

    PGD120 Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2015 New Jersey

    Voted Coors Banquet. has the least off flavors and is most tolerable to me than anything on the list. with that said, Yuengling in cans or draft trumps them all
     
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  9. fx20736

    fx20736 Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2009 New York

    in order of preference:

    Naragansett
    Genesee
    Old Style
    Schlitz
    Hamm's

    Have never tried Grain Belt but would like to and I haven't had Stroh's in 30+ years and have no memory of how it tastes, so would like to try it.
     
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  10. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    NATTY BOMBS ALL DAY!!!!
    helped me catch a buzz quickly. cheap and 5.9%
     
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  11. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    Yea Natrual Ice was introduced in 1995
     
  12. Yargamo

    Yargamo Initiate (0) Jun 9, 2015 New York

    Budweiser is as American as apple pie. It was born in America and has always been made in America. Not picking a fight.
     
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  13. lordofthemark

    lordofthemark Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2015 Virginia

    I am still not clear on why the alternative to talking about cheap AALS is talking whalez. The vast majority of craft beer consumed are beers like SABL, Fat Tire, etc on the one hand, and local microbrewery on the other. Those are the beers directly competing with the macros, not barrel aged stouts.
     
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  14. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
    Pooh-Bah

    Maybe he meant, "helped to forage America".
     
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  15. lordofthemark

    lordofthemark Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2015 Virginia

    I wouldn't say I would never drink a tasteless beer. Sometimes seltzer is simply not available.
     
  16. doowhat

    doowhat Initiate (0) Feb 22, 2009 Arkansas

    Budwieser...I almost bought a 12 pack last weekend, but I splurged and got the New Belgium summer mixed pack instead. Bud is my goto beer if I'm in a place with poor selection, pretty much everybody has it.
     
  17. Yargamo

    Yargamo Initiate (0) Jun 9, 2015 New York

    Hysterical.
     
  18. lordofthemark

    lordofthemark Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2015 Virginia

    I wonder how much of Bud's flag waving is actually aimed to draw children of Hispanic immigrants away from Mexican beers.
     
  19. Yargamo

    Yargamo Initiate (0) Jun 9, 2015 New York

    Children of Hispanic immigrants are easily swayed by waving flags?
     
  20. TurkeyFeathers

    TurkeyFeathers Initiate (0) Jun 22, 2014 New York

    Ditto
     
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