When doing your boil, make sure to check your overhead

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  1. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    I know most of the established home brewers probably use propane, and do their boil outside, or in a garage. But a lot of people, especially newbs such as myself, still do batches on the kitchen stove. As I was doing a boil last night, I came to check on it and noticed condensation drip from the fume hood into the pot. Wasn't a lot. Maybe it won't effect the flavor. Maybe it will. Maybe that's why most of my beers have been a bit "off". Only time will tell. But if you have been doing a boil on your stove, do learn from my mistake. This PSA has been brought to you by: not paying attention. :wink:
     
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  2. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    I don't have kids, so I can get away with pulling the stove out about a half foot so that my kettles clear the microwave. It might be an option for you.

    (edit: the no kids part is important because there's nothing preventing the stove from tipping when it's not set all the way back to the wall. Mostly dangerous if you plan on opening the oven at all)

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  3. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    When I brewed indoors, I didn't have a hood or anything over the stove, but a solid brew day would leave the whole ceiling covered with condensation and the occasional drip.
     
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  4. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    I'm so jealous! As a foodie, I miss gas stoves! I'll take a look at the idea of pulling the stove out some. After doing a wive down of the hood, it solved the problem. I'll just need to add that to the check list. Also half covering the pot with a lid worked as well. I'm not sure if a half cover would have any implications as I know boils are supposed to be done open.
     
  5. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    DMS re-entering the beer would be the main concern, but if you periodically clear the condensation (just let it drip in the sink or something) you should be fine
     
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  6. MCBanjoMike

    MCBanjoMike Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2014 Canada (QC)

    When I brewed in the kitchen, it would leave deposits on the walls even way at the other end of the house - I think they were from hop oils congealing on the walls. Now, we don't have proper ventilation in the kitchen, so maybe that wouldn't be a problem for a lot of people, but let me tell you it did not make the missus happy.
     
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  7. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    May have been true at one time; however ... the recent proliferation of 3G or less batch sizes is changing the face of home-beering.
    No shame about (still) brewing less than 5G batches in climate-controlled conditions without the added expense and burden of re-filling and schlepping propane tanks ... procuring turkey fryers ... jumbo kettles ... and big footprint fermentors.
    Condensate returning to the kettle is def not a 'best practice' which is why we want to leave the lid off the boil. A little drippage won't be a big problem but it should certainly be avoided.
     
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  8. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    This condensate was particularly gross looking. The good news is probably not much got in, and there was plenty of boil time to kill most things. It's ok though. Just another lesson learned.
     
  9. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    i was thinking about the grease and other shmutz underneath my microwave.
    DMS is a flaw. grease is really a flaw and shmutz is probably a sin.

    and now. you have one more reason to buy a cajun cooker. the one you have been looking at for months. go now. do it.
    Cheers.
     
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  10. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    yes to all the above. But no. I'm in a crowded apartment, and I don't have room.
     
  11. CDennyRun

    CDennyRun Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2014 Washington

    We should all chip in to get you a outdoor cooker. $60 will buy you a decent burner off ebay. I'll throw $10 on it!
     
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  12. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    what i meant to say was
    one more reason to get a mortgage so you can have a place to boil beer on a propane stove. i am fairly certain this is the primary reason brewers buy a house. this and the tax write off.
    Cheers.
     
  13. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    My immediate reaction to @corbmoster observation "The condensate was particularly gross looking ... " was some puckage in my mouth.

    Pix on request.
     
  14. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I always leave the vent on when brewing indoors...keeps the humidity down. The grease traps do need to be cleaned occasionally though. When the boil is done, I remove from the stove anyway for more rapid cooling
     
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  15. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    I appreciate the gesture. Space is still an issue though. I should be out of the university in a year. And hopefully (knocks of wood, with crossed fingers, while holding a rabbits foot) I will have a job soon, and looking at getting a house.
     
  16. CDennyRun

    CDennyRun Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2014 Washington

    So does this mean that you're using tuition money to brew beer?? If that's the case... Rock on brother! Cheers!
     
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  17. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Ill put in 10 towards a storage shed. :grinning:
     
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  18. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    It's an interesting topic that I don't think I've seen on here before. I know I get a lot of condensation on my hood when I boil inside (wintertime). I never really thought about it being unsanitary. The steam should kill anything, but the extra spice might be undesirable. I never ran the hood and hoped that the steam would just help heat the house. @corbmoster Did you say if you ran the hood during the boil or not?
     
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  19. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    Usually I do not run the hood sir. Both cooking, and wort making. I like the smells too much. And the fan is awfully loud. I think I will point my stand up fan into the kitchen to move the air and prevent condensation build up. Or run the loud exhaust fan....

    It was by happenstance that I noticed it last night. I'm sure the heat from the remaining 30 minutes of boil would have killed any microbes. It's off flavors I'm worried about. But eh, like I said, another lesson learned. And hopefully others will learn from my mistake as well.
     
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  20. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    Might as well be. GI bill money. Same difference I suppose.
     
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