Brux

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  1. eawolff99

    eawolff99 Pooh-Bah (2,422) May 10, 2010 Minnesota
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    I've had it. Pretty blah, actually, as far as sours go. Actually, and I hate to say this, kind of tastes like Beat. Not a ton of complexity. The off the shelf Russian River's run circles around it, as does Jolly Pumpkin (which is way more funky). I have a couple in the cellar and am the OP to this post, not worth the price at all, certainly relative to Jolly Pumpkin or other local sours. Just my opinion. Saison Brett is much more complex (and on and on...).
     
  2. WYVYRN527

    WYVYRN527 Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2007 Minnesota

    I drank one of the bottles I bought. Very tasty, but definitely needs aging.
     
  3. mjryan

    mjryan Pooh-Bah (1,571) Dec 22, 2007 Minnesota
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    It's not a sour.
     
  4. eawolff99

    eawolff99 Pooh-Bah (2,422) May 10, 2010 Minnesota
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    Help me out then with the label: A domesticated wild ale? What is it then? What's the difference between a sour and a wild?
     
  5. elshaggy

    elshaggy Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2009 Minnesota

    I don't like looking in the national thread and seeing people paying 12.99 bums me a touch. AKAIK St Cloud got 12 bottles unless cash wise got some.
     
  6. dc55110

    dc55110 Savant (1,116) Oct 24, 2010 Minnesota

    A "Wild Ale" just means that it typically contains a Brettanomyces strain. A "Wild Ale" does not necessarily mean a sour, but most/all sours are "wild"; just as a rooster is a chicken, but not all chickens are roosters. Brux is an homage to Orval, which is fermented with brett in the bottle, similarly to Brux.
    Sours will contain, on top of brett, bacterias (Lactobacillus or Pediococcus). The bacteria will break down the sugars, creating lactic acid, which produces the "sour" character.
    People seem to use the two terms interchangeably, "Sour" & "Wild", when they aren't the same.Then they get disappointed when the "wild ale" they just picked up isn't a enamel stripper, not knowing that it was just fermented with Brett or another wild yeast strain.
     
  7. biglobo8971

    biglobo8971 Initiate (0) May 6, 2010 Minnesota

    I thought it tasted like a watered down Supplication, wasnt bad, I dont think it was worth the 17 bones.
     
  8. rfbenavi80

    rfbenavi80 Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2010 Missouri

    These are going for 13 bucks in Missouri.
     
  9. elshaggy

    elshaggy Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2009 Minnesota

    my problem is I don't often see Lacto and Pedio advertised on the label. I do like Brett a lot, its just the Belgian yeast i try to avoid and I find sometimes these are used in conjunction with each other.
     
  10. jera1350

    jera1350 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,181) Dec 15, 2007 Minnesota
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    Thanks for that explanation. I often just put sour and wild in the same category. I really do not like sours, but I have had a few wilds that I did enjoy. Dissident and New Glarus Cranbic being two that come to mind. The two or three Cantillons I tried were not my style for sure. I won't be so scared away when I see beer labeled "wild" now.
     
  11. dc55110

    dc55110 Savant (1,116) Oct 24, 2010 Minnesota

    Some breweries will still call their sours, "wild ale." When in doubt read the label for more info, also consult the reviews for mentions of sour like traits.
    I got burned often in my early forays into sours. I'd see something fermented with Brett and I'd gab it and take it he expecting to get all puckered up. I would just chalk it up to a bad bottle or it being to young. The whole time not knowing what made mad a sour a "Sour."
     
  12. yamar68

    yamar68 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2011 Minnesota

    Cash Wise had some when I passed through last Friday, FYI.
     
  13. minnesotaryan

    minnesotaryan Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2010 Minnesota

    same here, still trying to learn more, wish I had loads of money to drink these every day.
     
  14. Tballz420

    Tballz420 Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2003 Minnesota

    I got to try this tonight at a friends house. Seemed to be shooting for a nice balance, and is probably best consumed now.

    I enjoyed it but wouldnt pay 17 bones for a bottle
     
  15. Bond111

    Bond111 Zealot (708) Feb 14, 2011 Minnesota
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    I picked up 2 on Tuesday from Cap N Cork, have yet to try it yet. Overall this week I've had some kinda crappy new beers. Outlaw by Two Brothers, Brainless on Cherries, Ola Dubh 18 year Special Reserve all were very disappointing to me. Good thing I still had a 2011 Central Waters Kosmyk Charlie to make up for those.
     
  16. dc55110

    dc55110 Savant (1,116) Oct 24, 2010 Minnesota



    This was posted in another thread; it's Vinnie and Brian Grossman (Sierra Nevada) explaining the origins of Brux.
     
  17. elshaggy

    elshaggy Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2009 Minnesota

    I just had a NB Clutch, a "dark sour ale", my girlfriend and roomie both said "this is NOT sour!". They need to brew Le Terrior again.

    Maybe we will open a Brux on the 11th, roomie got a Sobrehumano from JP, my hopes are high for that!
     
  18. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    In your opinion what will some age do to brux?
     
  19. grainbelt

    grainbelt Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2012 Minnesota

    This IS NOT going to be sour if your comparing RR sour with lacto and pedio you will be dissapointed. This is an ALL brett beer.
     
  20. dc55110

    dc55110 Savant (1,116) Oct 24, 2010 Minnesota

    I think aged Orval would be a good point of reference. The funk should grow with time.
     
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