Bad Trader: Mscanlon31

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by rudzud, Jul 13, 2015.

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  1. rudzud

    rudzud Initiate (0) Apr 28, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Alright, so...this is irritating. Over 250 trades (between here and other spots) and finally came across a bad trader. I sent out a 750mL growler of Tree House 3rd Anniversary Double Shot to @Mscanlon31 back on 6/22 on the date agreed upon (and was supposed to get a growler of Angry Chair's Fudge Bucket). That Wednesday, when I had not heard back from him with a tracking number I contacted him, to which he apologized for the delay. That Friday I messaged him again confirming the fact that he still had not sent a tracking number. He again apologized saying his work house are the same as the fedex drop location he uses and proceeded to state he would send out on Monday (6/29).

    He stated that he would be getting me a fresh growler that Friday (6/26) as I expressed my concern over him sending out a growler that would at this point be over two weeks old. I declined his offer to swap the growler out for a different beer (as Fudge Bucket looked different and I had not had anything from that brewery before). Again, he apologized, stating he was not prepared to be asked to work four 14 hour shifts that week (the reason why he had not shipped).

    That Monday comes and goes, still no tracking number. I ask him about it and he states that he was at work since noon and would be off the next two days and send out on Tuesday (6/30). Tuesday comes and he states he is going to sleep then get the growler. On 7/3 he sends me a picture of what he says is the growler top, saying he got it filled and was packing it up and saw it may leak so he was getting one filled that day to replace it. That is the last I hear from him until I message him on 7/5 asking for a tracking number. On 7/8 he messages me back stating Angry Chair has not gotten any 32oz growlers in and if I would be okay with a different growler filled with Fudge Bucket. I remind him that he said he was getting a new growler filled last week, stating I've been more than patient, etc. Told him I didn't care what the glass was as long as I got a growler of Fudge Bucket and a tracking number (by 7/13 I told him).

    Meanwhile, throughout these weeks he has been actively browsing and posting in ISO:FT. INCLUDING IP TRADES! So, clearly he has the time and ability to do beer related things. I suppose law of averages...more I trade the more likely I'll run into someone who falls under this category. I just would rather no one else gets fleeced or misled by this individual.

    Sigh
     
  2. rudzud

    rudzud Initiate (0) Apr 28, 2010 Massachusetts
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    He is verified. We went through the feedback system on BA. He has not left me feedback, and I have have just given him a 'bad'
     
  3. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Strange behavior there. Seems Fudge Bucket is still available for growlers as of Friday. Hope the trader comes through for you OP. Good luck.

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  4. rudzud

    rudzud Initiate (0) Apr 28, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Yeah..I know. I've been following Angry Chair and was quite confused when he said they had no growlers anymore...
     
  5. F2brewers

    F2brewers Maven (1,432) Mar 12, 2005 Massachusetts
    Society Trader

    @Mscanlon31 please respond when you log in.

    posted a link to this thread in your profile.
     
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  6. Mscanlon31

    Mscanlon31 Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2015 Florida

    Responding now everything is packaged and will be out tomorrow morning
     
  7. Mscanlon31

    Mscanlon31 Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2015 Florida

    We agreed that I will ship
    Out Monday remember ?
     
  8. rudzud

    rudzud Initiate (0) Apr 28, 2010 Massachusetts
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    I stated I wanted a tracking number by 7/13. I posted late 7/12 after not having heard any communication from you other than an 'ok' for what was going on 4 days. Gave you almost 21 days to provide a tracking number/proper communication. Most people send out on Mondays...if you had other trades incoming and this really was a fleecing I wanted others to be aware before they sent their ends out.
     
  9. Mscanlon31

    Mscanlon31 Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2015 Florida

    Yeah I responded what else would you like me to say? A few sentences when a simple ok did the job
     
  10. dmbforever

    dmbforever Initiate (0) May 8, 2013 Wisconsin
    Trader

    I'm not a mediator, but I'm smart enough to figure out and everyone else reading this, that the OP is not happy. I'm figuring a simple " I'm sorry, maybe I could have communicated better or elaborated on my message" would go along way. Sometimes, whether in the wrong or the right, taking the high road doesnt hurt.That's just me.
     
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  11. ResIpsaLoquitur

    ResIpsaLoquitur Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2010 New York
    Trader

    I'm curious, did the two of you agree you would ship today prior to this thread being created?
     
  12. rudzud

    rudzud Initiate (0) Apr 28, 2010 Massachusetts
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    No agreement, I just said on 7/8 I wanted a tracking number by 7/13. There was not even an implication I wanted him to wait until Monday, that was an ultimatum.

    Mike, you ask what more did I want you to say...how about a message every day stating you weren't shipping that day instead of leaving me in the dark for the majority of this transaction. You clearly had time to communicate when you're browsing the message boards and completing or finalizing ip trades.
     
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  13. ResIpsaLoquitur

    ResIpsaLoquitur Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2010 New York
    Trader

    Ultimatums are a great way of communicating.
     
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  14. MNBeerGeek

    MNBeerGeek Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2013 Minnesota

    Often times it seems like you don't actually read these threads, Vicster and just troll the OP. It seems like the dude was stringing OP along for weeks. At least without hearing the other side of the story.
     
  15. glass_house

    glass_house Maven (1,325) Jan 10, 2014 Ohio

    As are sarcastic one-liners.

    I never assume to know all the details if I'm not involved, but if the OP is portraying things accurately, it sounds like an ultimatum was in order.
     
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  16. rudzud

    rudzud Initiate (0) Apr 28, 2010 Massachusetts
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    He has stated that he, and I quote, "has shit to do today and will send out on the 14th". He also requested I deleted this thread.

    So yah...
     
  17. Vivified

    Vivified Initiate (0) Jul 9, 2014 California

    Well why haven't you deleted it yet? Obviously he is a very trustworthy trader and no one should be hearing of this.
     
  18. F2brewers

    F2brewers Maven (1,432) Mar 12, 2005 Massachusetts
    Society Trader

    But getting back on topic...
     
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  19. rudzud

    rudzud Initiate (0) Apr 28, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Getting back on topic, I will post when I get a tracking number.

    I had got a very unexpected message from someone who will remain nameless regarding Fudge Bucket, so, if this all falls through it won't be a complete loss.
     
  20. Mscanlon31

    Mscanlon31 Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2015 Florida

    It's going to be out tomorrow I'll post the tracking number on here.
     
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