Fresh IPAs...Does it really matter?

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  1. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    There's no single right answer to your question. It depends on you and the beer.

    For example, Nugget Nectar, while not an IPA, relies heavily on hop flavors. I find that when I have it less than two weeks old it has a harshness that smooths out and disappears at about 2 weeks. Then for about a month it hold pretty steady at what is its peak for me. After than the hop presence begins to recede as the beer changes. I still enjoy it 2 months of age, but for me the peak is that one month period between two and six weeks after bottling/canning.

    For other beers its different.

    For me this is why I like to avoid the one-and-done pattern of seeking out new beers all the time. Getting to know a beer is much more fun than just drinking something new all the time.
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    IMO Stone Brewing provides a proper best by timeframe of 90 days for their hoppy beers (e.g., Stone IPA).

    A hoppy beer in a can (with little oxygen introduced during canning) and continuously stored cold (brewery to wholesale distributor to retailer to consumer) may likely still be pretty good at the 3+ month mark.

    Cheers!
     
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  3. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    Depending on what your definition of fresh is - I actually like my IPA's with a hint of age on them. Nothing crazy, but 3-6 weeks mellows out some harsh notes on many hop bombs.
     
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Tom,

    Do you continuously store your Nugget Nectar cold?

    Cheers!
     
  5. jlsims04

    jlsims04 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Illinois

    Yea it matters but not to the extent that people on this site would have you believe.
     
  6. MileHighBeerGuy

    MileHighBeerGuy Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2014 Colorado

    On July 1st I did a blind taste test with Pliny dated 03/02 and Pliny dated 06/05, granted three months discrepancy is a long time and the old pliny was 4 months old but the difference was drastic and I ended up pouring out the old Pliny after drinking the fresh one. I also did this same blind taste test with the last two releases of Enjoy by and the result was the same.

    Not sure where the cut off of freshness for IPAs is but there is no doubt these good IPAs, whether gradually or precipitously, fall off.
     
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  7. jlsims04

    jlsims04 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Illinois

    The head brewer has said that he prefers it at 10 weeks.
     
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  8. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Not enough space in the fridge. I get it within a few days of bottling, put some in the fridge and the rest of the case is kept cool in the basement.
     
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  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    How were your beers stored (what temperature)?

    Cheers!
     
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  10. jlsims04

    jlsims04 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Illinois

    I personally think you mind is playing tricks but I perseonally dont think 8 weeks is old.
     
  11. jlsims04

    jlsims04 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Illinois

    What? I mean I do the same as you but im confused what your post has to do with mine lol
     
  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I do the same exact thing. I would be willing to bet that if we obtained fresh canned Nugget Nectar and stored it cold (refrigerator) it would still taste 'good' at the 3 month mark. I will conduct this exercise next year.

    Cheers!
     
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  13. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    He meant to reply to me.

    Cheers!
     
  14. PorterPro125

    PorterPro125 Pooh-Bah (1,700) Jan 19, 2013 Canada (NB)

    In my opinion, I definitely think that hop flavours fade after a relatively short period of time (a few months or so). I always prefer a fresh IPA over a not-so-fresh IPA and never usually buy an IPA if it's any older than a few months.
     
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  15. jlsims04

    jlsims04 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Illinois

    Oh haha. Yup that makes sense. Cheers.
     
  16. deleted_user_950283

    deleted_user_950283 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2015
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    my biggest suggestion is to never drink fresh IPA's so you never learn the difference because if it is your sort of thing then it leads to big disappointments down the road
     
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  17. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2009 California

    With a IPA/DIPA you're unfamiliar with...probably not or not as much.

    With one you've been drinking regularly for the past 2+ years and very familiar with, YES.
     
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  18. MileHighBeerGuy

    MileHighBeerGuy Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2014 Colorado

    The Pliny was stored at room temperature. The enjoy by was stored in the fridge. I do have access to a cellar, perhaps I should do it again and see if the cellar storage changes anything.
     
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  19. ElijahSF

    ElijahSF Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2013 California

    Freshness is important with any hoppy beer, especially if the person is trying the beer for the first time. They have to know what to expect from the beer every time they have after their first time drinking it. I suggest to people starting to drink craft beer to make sure they get the freshest example possible the first time they drink a beer for that reason.
     
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  20. KSOZE

    KSOZE Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2015 Ohio

    IPAs should be refrigerated. Where is that chart people post here all the time? Storing an IPA at room temperature RAPIDLY speeds staleness.
     
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