Does a state's reputation for beer influence ratings?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Beef_Curtains, Jul 14, 2015.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Beef_Curtains

    Beef_Curtains Initiate (0) Oct 14, 2013 Ohio

    Would a beer from one of the best beer states get a better average score than a beer of equal quality and style from one of the worst beer states?

    I think if you took two identical beers, but one was from Vermont and the other North Dakota, the Vermont one would be rated higher.
     
  2. lambpasty

    lambpasty Initiate (0) May 3, 2013 New Hampshire

    Assuming there is some kind of bias, I think it could go either way. I could see a VT resident voting their home-state beer a bit higher, and on the other hand I can see a CA resident comparing HFS to RR and voting RR higher for the same reason.

    For me, a good beer is a good beer. There's some great beer in Massachusetts, but there's also a lot of shitty beer; same goes for every state.
     
  3. TonyLema1

    TonyLema1 Pooh-Bah (2,890) Nov 19, 2008 South Carolina
    Pooh-Bah

    You may be on to something, but I think I'm objective enough to rate beers on merit

    Let me give you a comparison...I grew up in Buffalo, home of wings...that doesn't mean every place in Buffalo makes great wings, there were a few places in my old neighborhood that made terrible wings..I've traveled all over, I had some great wings in Southern Missisippi......I gave up being a geographical snob years ago, great beer can come from anywhere
     
  4. SanFranJake

    SanFranJake Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2012 California

    I don't think so.
    No disrespect to @richj1970 but I didn't know Alabama was worthy of anything other than decent college football teams until he sent me Straight to Ale bottles.
    Same can be said about Florida (sorry @jhartley ). If you read an odd news article (Boy bites off his finger then gives sister a wet willie with it) then found out it took place in Florida, it would seem normal. But there's damn good beer to be had from that state!
     
  5. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
    In Memoriam

    The effect of State should be very small (if any) when compared to things with more major, and already demonstrated by research, effects such as Brewery name/reputation, style of beer, price of beer, and any advance reputation of the beer.
     
    #5 drtth, Jul 14, 2015
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2015
    jhavs and BranfordBound like this.
  6. BranfordBound

    BranfordBound Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2010 Connecticut

    I don't think people are really judging a beer based on a state-per-state basis. Personally, I couldn't care less about the origin state (unless, of course, it's from Connecticut) :wink:
     
    SteveB24 likes this.
  7. JLaw55

    JLaw55 Pooh-Bah (2,417) Jul 10, 2014 Missouri
    Society Pooh-Bah

    I think brewery bias is much more prevalent than state bias.
     
  8. hopsputin

    hopsputin Grand Pooh-Bah (4,403) Apr 1, 2012 New Jersey
    Pooh-Bah

    Agreed
     
    JLaw55 likes this.
  9. pat61

    pat61 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2010 Minnesota

    With an average of somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 to 70 breweries per state it might be hard to sustain a state bias but people might rate a beer from their hometown or neighborhood higher. I think certain popular breweries tend to get higher ratings. I imagine if I fork over $30 or more for a bomber or have to drive across 2 states for a special beer I am really really going to want to like that beer.
     
    NCMonte and BBThunderbolt like this.
  10. Beef_Curtains

    Beef_Curtains Initiate (0) Oct 14, 2013 Ohio

    But what if we are comparing new breweries just starting out that haven't developed a reputation yet. Could the location's existing beer reputation influence the reputation of new developing breweries?
     
    MUTINY likes this.
  11. sculls65

    sculls65 Pundit (769) Dec 15, 2008 Michigan

    Clearly difficulty in obtaining is the biggest factor in rating on this site. None of the top 50 can just be grabbed of any shelf where I live. Granted it may be easier in the state where it is brewed. Has always been strange that there are over 10000 ratings for KBS yet only 6000 for Founders Porter, a beer readily available. Is that because people feel the need to prove they had a highly ranked beer ? And since it was a bitch to obtain it must be fantastic? Pokemon. Pokemon. :stuck_out_tongue:
     
    BuzzG, MA_hops, eppie82 and 5 others like this.
  12. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
    Pooh-Bah

    Maybe. If anything I'd suspect more bias from the underdog states as they want to pretend that they're good enough, beer is tasty enough, and gosh darnit people need to like them more.
     
    bubseymour and BBThunderbolt like this.
  13. JLaw55

    JLaw55 Pooh-Bah (2,417) Jul 10, 2014 Missouri
    Society Pooh-Bah

    Possibly, but I don't think that really happens much if at all. At least I don't think I have ever seen an example of that. Anything is possible though.

    I think most bias is attributed to a specific brewery, whether it is from a hard to obtain line of beers or extreme hype over their 'rarity' status. That is the type of bias I see the most. In those cases, I think the same people showing a bias toward one brewery, would be more likely to rate everything else lower rather than higher. This way it keeps their favorite above everyone else. Not to mention, "_________ brewery can never stand up to the high level of craftsmanship of my favorite brewery ___________." :rolling_eyes:
     
  14. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Certainly. Our friends from Michigan, for example, are very vocal in their view of the quality of the beers from their state, and their scores and reviews reflect that. Whereas NW BAs think our local beers stand up against any, our scores tend to run lower. Brewery bias, hype, and homerism all come into it. Look how many people cheer for teams from their state, even though they might live closer to another team (Eau Claire WI is closer to Minneapolis than Green Bay, but I bet they're mostly Packer fans, for example).
     
    Strangestbrewer and MA_hops like this.
  15. jcos

    jcos Pundit (802) Nov 23, 2009 Maryland

    I think there is a bias based on everything you see from the label.

    Try a beer without knowing what it is and then judge it on it's merits. Problem is, we all usually pour our own beers and have expectations based on brewery, style or even state especially if we haven't tried any beers from that particular brewery yet.
     
  16. Greywulfken

    Greywulfken Grand Pooh-Bah (5,815) Aug 25, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Not for me, but some folks might have a bias.
     
    BeerBob likes this.
  17. Fox82791

    Fox82791 Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2014 New York

    I think the current overall ratings and/or the brewerys reputation would inflate ratings more than the state
     
  18. Brutaltruth

    Brutaltruth Grand Pooh-Bah (3,539) Mar 22, 2014 Ohio
    Pooh-Bah

    Goodness does not lie within a border, just in the process and the quality that it produces.
     
  19. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    ISO: beer from North Dakota that is identical to beer from Vermont
     
  20. cjgator3

    cjgator3 Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2006 Florida

    I think there is a ton of bias in ratings based on the brewery, label, country, region, etc.: why wouldn't there be bias when it comes to the state it's brewed in? It may be less of a factor than those previously mentioned, but I do believe it is still there.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.