Redeemed trader: mathieu87

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by OneBeertoRTA, Jul 24, 2015.

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  1. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2010 California

    I've had over 100+ trades on here, and only one issue overall. Great success!

    I recently did my first international trade. In the past, I've received international boxes but usually sent to a proxy out east. Great communication from the start, ironing out the details, and me getting some help figuring out the process with USPS.

    Timeline:

    May 8th: Trade finalized

    May 8th - June 4th: We back and forth on the timing of when we will ship

    June 13th I get a BM that the box is packaged on his end

    June 18th I shipped on my end (sent BM)

    July 4th I provided tracking number as it was still in customs

    July 10th I posted message saying box cleared customs and was delivered

    July 10th - I posted friendly response asking if box made it safely (I packed well)

    July 18th - My first post expressing a little concern as I haven't heard from him since June 13th

    The bummer for me was that the timing of the trade coincided with the "Verified" change on this site. I recall from memory that he had a solid trade history but now since he is from Belgium and hasn't logged on in a while nor paid to Verify I can't see his trade history.

    The shipping alone was $100+ and I sent over some quality stuff; two BA DL's++++.

    When would you get concerned? I have the sense he is a solid dude, but I'm concerned that his last time viewing the conversation was July 11th and hasn't responded since June 22nd.

    Cheers!
     
  2. ResIpsaLoquitur

    ResIpsaLoquitur Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2010 New York
    Trader

    Did you get an email address or phone? Have you reached out to hos former trade partners?

    Two weeks with no word is troubling, but what other steps have you taken to contact him?
     
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  3. mythaeus

    mythaeus Pooh-Bah (2,074) Jul 22, 2013 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Out him and tag him here. For that big of a trade, read the conversation July 11th and STILL has not responded? That's inexcusable let alone ignoring your previous messages as well. The longer you wait the more of a chance he may be scamming other people for more...well, at least he can't trade due to the verification system.
     
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  4. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Usually when people post a thread asking whether a trade is turning bad that is the time to post a bad trader or should have been done already. If all of the facts you layed out are accurate, time as come to worry and tag this person.
     
  5. CHSASVbeer

    CHSASVbeer Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2014 South Carolina

    I'd give him a finite amount of time (24-72 hrs) before you out him. If you don't have another way to contact him, just message him here, but I'd try all methods of contact...you may have done this, but just offering what I've done...
     
  6. mythaeus

    mythaeus Pooh-Bah (2,074) Jul 22, 2013 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    @Todd , I wonder if he can see this thread at all, even if tagged, since he's not verified, thus not able to use the trade forums.
     
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  7. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2010 California

    Correct the timing coincided with the Verified thing and I can't view his trade history. He had quite a few if I recall. I have my hopes up.
     
  8. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2010 California

    No but again, I'm not sure how the Verified thing affected international folks. Can they still post BMs? He hasn't been on since July 11th and responded since June 13th. By memory I think he had 30+ trades on the new system with solid feedback. I can't access it right now but I will give him a few more days before calling him out.
     
  9. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
    In Memoriam Pooh-Bah Trader

    Have you tried to phone or text him?

    And as others have said, the time to worry is now. Not sure how to tag him here or if he can see this forum, but, yeah, man, I woulda been worried about this some time back.
     
  10. mythaeus

    mythaeus Pooh-Bah (2,074) Jul 22, 2013 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I know you're being nice and all, but unless you have his number or email to call/write and say you created a thread about this and will call him out, nothing will likely change in a couple more days. He read the conversation on July 11th, after you asked if the box made it safely and didn't respond. It's been almost 2 weeks since.

    As for BM, the only thing that mandatory to have verification completed is access to trading: http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/introducing-account-verification.306828/ . That means he should be able to see and respond to BMs as still.

    That said, if he has 30+ trades and just went silent, I'd also be concern about his well-being. Maybe some of the Belgium members know him and can chime in (may need a post in the Benelux forum).
     
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  11. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2010 California

    @mathieu87

    I set you a text.

    Please let me know your ok, haven't heard from you in a while.
     
  12. atpca

    atpca Pooh-Bah (1,652) Jun 10, 2013 California
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Oh boy, @mathieu87 seemed like a really standup guy (IP Trade Brussels). Hope this gets resolved and he's ok.
     
  13. F2brewers

    F2brewers Maven (1,432) Mar 12, 2005 Massachusetts
    Society Trader

    Title edited and moved to Bad Trader forum.

    Ler's hope this gets resolved.
     
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  14. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2010 California

    Looks like he has been active outside of this site. I really hope I didn't get shafted. This wasn't a trade of locals...
     
  15. JavaNoire

    JavaNoire Savant (1,163) Dec 4, 2010 Iowa

    @mathieu87 You rec'd a text July 11th which you never responded to yet were last seen on BA July 17th. What gives? It seems unlikely that you've got time to get on & off the site multiple times while never responding to your trading partner's texts & very reasonable concerns. You seem to have rec'd a considerable amt of outstanding beer while failing to uphold your end of the deal. Again, what's going on?

    @OneBeertoRTA what exactly did the trade involve, ie what did you send & what were you supposed to receive?
     
  16. LehighAce06

    LehighAce06 Pooh-Bah (2,240) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I know in some situations @blue-dream has posted to the profile of someone who does not have access to this forum because they are not verified (also helps direct people here that may be in the early stages of a trade). Perhaps that would help?

    edit: Also, good luck OP.
     
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  17. blue-dream

    blue-dream Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2013 Virgin Islands (U.S.)

    Added to his profile page so at least others can see.
     
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  18. Dicers

    Dicers Grand Pooh-Bah (3,436) Sep 2, 2012 California
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Curious if he is using the excuse of having to pay the .99 USD to verify as a reason to not getting verified. It's very thinly veiled excuse, but something that may be "stopping" him from being verified. Regardless a trader with experience should have come through. GL OP as I hope this gets resolved quickly

    EDIT: To clarify my stance, I don't think that is a reasonable excuse at all, just trying to get in the head of a bad trader
     
  19. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2010 California

    @mathieu87
    I'm hopeful buddy that you are ok. I see you on the other site. Please provide an update
     
  20. Brewzer1010

    Brewzer1010 Crusader (480) Feb 17, 2010 New Jersey
    Trader

    This is a bummer, anyone who has traded with Nick knows that if the trade centered around two BA DLs, he probably sent 4 of them (or something along those lines), and then some. Very generous trader here. Hope this all works out.
     
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