Bourbon County 2015 Speculation

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  1. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Not gonna name the local beers that are equal to, if not superior to, those Inbev brews. I like the fact that I can walk into local stores months later, and just grab one as the mood strikes. I don't join in the hyping of beers, because look what it leads to. Look at all the bitching on this thread about how easy it used to be to get, and now it's a pain in the ass. I don't want mules and hand trucks at beer releases.

    Beer only has so much it can be made to do. The differences between the most well made examples of a given style are small enough to be negligible. The reason some beers have for being seen as "The Best" often have to do with it either being the first of a style someone tries, or the experience that was had while having the beer. Rest assured, with almost 4,000 breweries now running in this country, most folks have a local/regional brewery making very similar beer, but without thousands of other people telling everyone how awesome it is, so folks don't approach it with the same expectations.
     
  2. BoardwalkBock

    BoardwalkBock Pooh-Bah (2,041) Aug 18, 2012 New York
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    Top Hops in NYC sells BCBS in 4-packs and single bottles.
     
  3. jlsims04

    jlsims04 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Illinois

    No I ment exactly what I typed. There was an article awhile back that is was 32 year old barrels. I will do my best to find it for you.
     
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  4. floridadrift

    floridadrift Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2014 Florida

    Thanks for nothing then. Agree to disagree. Breweries are modeling their own beer releases after Bourbon County releases. Mikkeller would laugh at you for saying beer only has so much it can do. Beers are rated "The Best" because of taste, consistency throughout the years, variation, format, appeal and of course, marketing (hype). That's why people have such a good experience with Bourbon County and that's why there is such a cult following for it. Thank God for all micro-breweries that Goose Island, Dogfish Head, Lagunitas, Sierra Nevada, Samual Adams and a couple others have paved the way for. If you have something to contribute about Bourbon County releases, feel free to do so at any time in this specific thread, otherwise, get lost. :wink:
     
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  5. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Nice try, but I left second grade behind decades ago. If you want to bait me, you've gotta try harder.
     
  6. Darklight

    Darklight Initiate (0) Jun 27, 2006 Pennsylvania

    That's exactly what I'm talking about. The Barrel aged versions of those beers. Didn't think I had to spell it out. The barrel aged versions of those beers are overhyped and I believe a BCBS with all of those adjuncts would blow them away. Just my opinion.
     
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  7. jlsims04

    jlsims04 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Illinois

    I agree with alot of what you said but no "shelf" beer holds a candle to BCBS in the BA Stout category.
     
  8. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Sure, just keep telling yourself that. Look, I'm not shitting on anybody, or any beer, here. I've got some favorite beers that I go nuts for whenever I can get them. Are they the "best" in their styles? Maybe, maybe not, but they push my buttons. A lot of folks love the BCS beers, and rightly so, they are very good beers. But, as I mentioned above, I think a lot of that is that for many it's their first "experience", and they remember fondly, and look to recreate that experience. But, if we took 10 different stouts, from 10 different breweries, and put them each into the same barrels, for the same amount of time, how different could they possibly be? Sure, different barrels will alter things, as will the various adjuncts.

    In most styles, the differences among the top beers of that style are so minute, that it's likely things other than Looks, Scent, Taste, Body, and Overall Enjoyment are among the variables that make folks choose one over another.
     
  9. Darklight

    Darklight Initiate (0) Jun 27, 2006 Pennsylvania

    Sorry, not a fad. People get "worked" up about it because it's an amazing beer period. Forget how it's released, the rarity of it, the hype, etc. It's a World Class beer. The fact that you have to mention "Inbev beer" obviously means you are just a hater, and don't have any real constructive criticism.
     
  10. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Why does the mention of the beers owner bother you? And, I don't hate the beer, I find it very enjoyable. But, carry on.
     
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  11. Darklight

    Darklight Initiate (0) Jun 27, 2006 Pennsylvania

    So you are saying it is not possible for any one beer to be that much better than another in Looks, Scent, Taste, Body, and Overall Enjoyment? In my opinion Bourbon County is tops in all of these categories. You may have some that are right up there with it in Looks, Scent, Taste, but maybe not body. Or you may have some that are right up there with it in Looks, Taste, Body, and not Scent. In my opinion Bourbon County is just perfect in all of those categories and it also get more enjoyable over time. Many others feel the same and they aren't just going crazy over it because of the hype.
     
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  12. Darklight

    Darklight Initiate (0) Jun 27, 2006 Pennsylvania

    Because that shouldn't matter and shoudln't even be brought up. Come on, you know you mentioned it just to get a rise out of people. It's not even a valid criticism.

    And what exactly is the point of your post then????
     
  13. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Among the top tier of beers within a given style, yes.
     
  14. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Do you not mention the brewer of any other beers? Why is it bad that I mention the brewer of this beer is also the brewer of Space Dust? Or Cucumber Crush?
     
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  15. jlsims04

    jlsims04 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Illinois

    Because AB doesnt brew it.
     
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  16. maltmaster420

    maltmaster420 Initiate (0) Aug 17, 2005 Oregon

    He could be a hater, or he could be pointing out the hypocrisy of people spending 11 months per year bashing AB and then going nuts for this over-hyped beer, somehow forgetting the fact that AB is a big evil corporation for just long enough to drink it.

    Keep telling yourself that.
     
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  17. jlsims04

    jlsims04 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Illinois

    I will. AB brews alot of their core line up but BC and the Sisters are still brewed and aged in Chicago. It reall isnt a debate its a fact.
     
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  18. Thirsty_In_Chicago

    Thirsty_In_Chicago Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2014 Illinois

    Anyone want to get back to the thread title and continue speculating?

    I'm sure someone has mentioned it, but I would love to see some sort of double barrel variety. I'm pretty sure there was some BCS aging in Solera barrels at the warehouse....
     
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  19. Darklight

    Darklight Initiate (0) Jun 27, 2006 Pennsylvania

    I would agree that at the top there are very little differences from beer to beer, but in most people's opinions Bourbon County is the pinacle as far as stouts. It's perfect in every category. Also, it comes in 12oz format when most bourbon barrel aged stouts come in bigger formats. That adds to the love of this beer. Also, again it arguably gets better over time and I can't say that for every BBA stout on the market. Most BBA stouts on the market are also hard to get and a lot are even more limited due to being brewery only releases. That fact that this is released to the mass market in fairly large quantities may contribute to hype, but because of all of the above it is warranted. People want to get their hands on this beer because it is that damn good.

    Maybe I'm not all salty like you because I don't have many troubles getting this beer, and I'm not bothered about their relationship to InBev.
     
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  20. jlsims04

    jlsims04 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Illinois

    Double Barrel Would Be Awesome. I also think a Rum barrel reincarnation of Prop 13 would be excelletn.
     
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