Old IPAs - What to do about this problem?

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  1. joeyjoey104

    joeyjoey104 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2014 California

    I have been noticing more and more lately that certain IPAs, such as Ballast Point & Firestone Walker's tend to sit on shelves for a long time. I had a Sculpin recently that was a little more than 2 months old, which isn't that bad, but it didn't taste like the same beer as when it is fresh. (Actually it tasted awful and as Stone has shown, everyone needs to know that an IPA has a shelf life of 35 days - I know that isn't always the case, but that should be a universal rule in the industry now).

    For the life of me, I cannot find any of Firestone's IPAs within a week or two old, they are always two months old... With some local favorites over here like Beachwood and El Segundo doing self-distribution, with an emphasis on freshness, why don't more big breweries do this?

    Am I just the outlier who is annoyed that I can't get a fresh batch of Sculpin a week old? Or is this the case with other craft connoisseurs.
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    "For the life of me, I cannot find any of Firestone's IPAs within a week or two old, they are always two months old..."

    I wish that I could find Firestone Walker beer that was two months old. Those beers are much older in my area.

    Cheers!
     
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  3. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    To answer the OP's question - don't buy old IPAs. Stick to the fresh stuff. You won't turn into a pumpkin if you don't have Sculpin [which by the way is overpriced].
     
  4. JamesStreet

    JamesStreet Pooh-Bah (2,049) May 9, 2013 Louisiana
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    I recently was pumped to find a Union Jack that was 5 weeks old, and that's searching from Louisiana all the way up the east coast to Rhode Island.
     
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  5. BeerGreg

    BeerGreg Savant (1,159) May 17, 2013 Illinois

    You honestly expect breweries to abide by IPAs having a 35-day shelf life? Good lord. Do a side-by-side blind taste test sometime of these "old" IPAs.
     
  6. beerded_drunk

    beerded_drunk Zealot (659) Aug 30, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Thank you.....
     
  7. gopens44

    gopens44 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,560) Aug 9, 2010 Virginia
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    2 months on either one isn't the worst thing that can happen to you within the realm of beer, by far. With them now being offered in cans, that drop off will not be as bad either. But to address your concern in general, I'd have to believe that there's got to be some brewery near you that makes a comparably good IPA that you can growler up on quite routinely. Maybe just take a break from sifting through old beers and stick closer to home if age beyond a week is a major concern.
     
  8. JohnnyMalts

    JohnnyMalts Crusader (437) Jul 28, 2014 New York
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    I have noticed that my local beer store too always has old IPA's on the shelf, such as the Firestone Walker IPA's and even Ithaca Flower Power is always old in my local beer store, which is crazy because we're in the same state. If an IPA is more than three months old I'll skip it, but three months and under is fair game in my opinion. The drop off during that time frame is usually not that much noticeable. With that being said, my local beer store always seems to have fresh grapefruit sculpin. By fresh I usually mean about a month old or younger. The regular sculpin, however, is always around the 2-3 month mark.
     
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  9. SRBush1974

    SRBush1974 Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2015 New Jersey

    At least 3 stores I visited looking for decently fresh Double Jack and all had the same, march 2015. Haven't seen anything fresher. I'm not the best with brewing cycles, so maybe they haven't made any since.

    A month or two would be OK for me. But 4+ months is too long for me.
     
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  10. berto714

    berto714 Initiate (0) Oct 16, 2014 New York

    I was at a local bottle shop the other week and noticed they had Double Trouble on the shelf... that was bottled last summer. This seems to be far more egregious than the couple of months people are mentioning here. It's a shame because I wanted to get it, but once I saw the date I passed. Makes me think twice about shopping there.
     
  11. KingforaDay

    KingforaDay Pooh-Bah (2,445) Aug 5, 2010 New Jersey
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    Old IPA's are not a problem for us the consumer, it's a problem for the brewer (and to some extent the distributor). We can just opt to not buy any beer we deem past it's freshness point, but the Brewer has to figure out how to produce enough beer for distribution to it's markets while not having it sit too long where it ends up being pulled off the shelves. I think all the new breweries popping up are hurting the bigger craft breweries as we know we can always get fresh beer any time we want it. I pass on a lot of 2 month old beers that I would haven't thought twice on buying a few years ago.
     
  12. ncusatis

    ncusatis Crusader (483) Dec 22, 2014 Wisconsin
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    If you have a hankering for fresh Sculpin, maybe make the trip to the brewery (seeing as you're from CA). Support your small breweries that make sure they're selling fresh beer. Otherwise, just keep checking bottling dates and buy fresh stuff.
     
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  13. Fargrow

    Fargrow Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2013 Michigan

    My solution has been to mostly just drink IPAs on tap. But I'm always on the lookout for a relatively fresh, refrigerated bottle or can as well.
     
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  14. DelMontiac

    DelMontiac Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2010 Oklahoma

    I so envy folks that can buy at their local brewers for this exact reason. Walking into the Tasty Weasel at Oskar Blues and leaving with cold cans was like a dream, especially for an Oklahoman.

    Most stores don't care enough, but I go to a couple of stores in Kansas that display best by dates on the shelves for beers that are relatively short lived. When it gets down to the wire, the price goes down. They also display dates for beers that have been aged by the store which is really nice - they tend to go up a bit in price. Pretty cool to see five years of Big Foot on the shelf!
     
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  15. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    Don't buy them.

    And 2 month old IPA is not a problem. Sure it's nice to get beer as fresh as possible, but this freshness thing is getting out of control.
     
  16. BeerForMuscle

    BeerForMuscle Grand Pooh-Bah (3,713) Nov 26, 2006 New Jersey
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    Who's fault is it that an IPA on the shelf is 3 months old? Either someone is taking a while to deliver it to the store, or not enough people are buying it when it is "fresh".
     
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  17. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Perhaps you don't like Sculpin as much as you thought.
     
  18. upsbeernut

    upsbeernut Savant (1,111) Sep 22, 2011 Georgia

    Same freaking problem with Stones 2.0 Ruination , bought it 2 weeks after the enjoy by date of 7/15/2015. There was quite a difference , no fruity flavor at all, went right to the alcohol taste and kinda dank aftertaste. Got ripped 12 bucks.
     
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  19. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Hmmm, I must have missed something. When and how did they show that?
     
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  20. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Step 1: Don't purchase IPAs that are older than you prefer them to be
    Step 2: Purchase IPAs that are as fresh as you prefer them to be instead
    Step 3: Convince other people that shop at the stores you generally shop at not to purchase IPAs that are older than you prefer them to be*
    Step 4: Convince other people that shop at the stores you generally shop at to purchase IPAs that are as fresh as you prefer them to be instead*
    Step 5: Watch IPAs that you don't prefer get replaced by IPAs that you do prefer at the stores you generally shop at*



    *Probably not going to happen
     
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