Are "Brewery Only" Breweries Bad for Craft Beer?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by SteveB24, Aug 6, 2015.

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Are "Brewery Only" Breweries Bad for Craft Beer?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    279 vote(s)
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  1. SteveB24

    SteveB24 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 New York

    So i went to my first brewery release two weeks ago and i had a great time, i loved that i got my hands on these exclusive beers and it was just on overall cooler experience then going to a bottle shop.
    Then the following week i was speaking to the owner of a bottle shop i frequent, who was telling me that the weeks during which this brewery, which i won't name, releases beer, he experiences a noticeable decline in sales. And that makes sense to me. i get the appeal of limited releases as well as shop owners mild frustration about customers obsessing over only specific beers, but these brewery only sales not only cause beer shops to miss pout on sales but the customer doesn't even walk in the door and there's no opportunity for additional beer to be purchased. Furthermore, people seem even less interested in shelf beers because the bar is set so high for the hype of a given beer, and we BA's tend to let hype effect our purchasing, myself included. So more beer sits on shelves for longer.
    And now this brewery only model seems to be gaining popularity, so my question to you fellow BA's do you think that this model that seems to be adopted by many new breweries will have an overall positive or negative effect on the craft beer industry?
    If your still reading, thanks:slight_smile: cheers.
     
  2. aasher

    aasher Grand Pooh-Bah (4,557) Jan 27, 2010 Indiana
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    No, they're the best thing about it. It gets the name out, the people, the community, etc.
     
  3. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Well if you like the idea that a brewery stays in business long enough to be able to begin and to expand distribution its just fine. Fickle customers will be fickle regardless of what a brewery may do.
     
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  4. SteveB24

    SteveB24 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 New York

    I hear you, but the breweries i'm thinking of are producing enough that they could easily distribute at least locally.
     
  5. Patches826

    Patches826 Pooh-Bah (2,479) Aug 28, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Why pay a distributor when the customers will come to you?
     
  6. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Will the New York state laws allow self-distribution? If not they have to go to the three tier system and through a middleman with three different parties that need profit margin to get the beers to you. If they do allow self distribution what is the cost of the permit or whatever and do they have the trucks and drivers to make it possible?
     
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  7. BeerNDoggerel

    BeerNDoggerel Initiate (0) Mar 13, 2011 Illinois

    Look, if a brewery thinks a beer will do well in wide distribution and they have the capacity to make enough of it, they'll widely distribute it--that's the business model. On the other hand, brewery-only beers not only give the brewery fan on a pilgrimage a treat (and bragging rights), they provide the brewer with an outlet and test market for experiments and an excuse to make beers that don't mass market well but might be greatly appreciated by just the right audience.
     
  8. kell50

    kell50 Pooh-Bah (2,334) Jul 25, 2007 North Carolina
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    These folks are the ones pumping out fresh beer to the locals. Crafting beer the rest of us nerds drool over. More power to em!
     
  9. HattedClassic

    HattedClassic Pooh-Bah (2,557) Nov 23, 2009 Virginia
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    Not really. Brewery only releases tend to be either few and far in between or nobody but the die hard fans that live nearby know about them. Besides, it's these kinds of releases that help a brewery not only get its name out but potentially improve its financial position so that it becomes a possibility that a brewery-only release will be distributed to bottle shops in the future.
     
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  10. Geuzedad

    Geuzedad Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2010 Arizona

    I still purchase beer from my beer guy. It doesn't keep me out of his store, it actually makes me spend more money on beer as I will go to the Brewery in addition to the bottle shop. I actually enjoy walking into a tasting room and getting something that may be a one off or one hit wonder by the brewery. I go to San Diego a lot and find some pretty neat gems at many of the places I stop by. And of course right here in AZ, all the local places seem to have something different to try on a regular basis. Kind of like opening a box of Cracker Jacks to see what the prize is for adults! I think if anything, it spurs breweries on to step out and try different things as well as keeping interest in the craft beer scene, both locally and nationally.
     
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  11. DelMontiac

    DelMontiac Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2010 Oklahoma

    Those are some of the best places to have a pint if you ask me. It's a very gratifying experience for both brewer and consumer.
     
  12. pat61

    pat61 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2010 Minnesota

    I think the localism of craft beer is one of its finest qualities. I cherish brewery released beers an will ride my bike miles to find them.
     
  13. SteveB24

    SteveB24 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 New York

    nope, i think only two or three states are legally allowed to use a two tier system, ny isn't one, and i believe the ones where it is legal still use a three tier system because that's the standard method across the industry.
     
  14. surfcaster

    surfcaster Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
    Trader

    No x 100.

    Why would somewhere making something great with limited distro be bad in general?
     
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  15. SteveB24

    SteveB24 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 New York

    right, i definitely enjoy it as a consumer, i'm just wondering if the long term impact will be positive.
     
  16. SteveB24

    SteveB24 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 New York

    I thought the same would happen with me, then i realized i spent so much at the brewery that i actually didn't restock at the beers store for the following two weeks.
     
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  17. iRun2Beer

    iRun2Beer Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2015 Minnesota

    If I am given the choice between a fresh beer at a brewery-only release, or going to a local liquor store and checking bottle dates on dozens of IPAs until I find one that is acceptable...I'm going to take the brewery-only release every time. If local bottle shops and stores were better with their turnover, then perhaps my opinion would be different. I understand it's a more complicated issue than it may seem - but I can't deny that freshness is strongly correlated to my purchasing decision.
     
  18. SteveB24

    SteveB24 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 New York

    i agree a hundred percent, but that practice may cause the non brewery only beers to sit on shelves even longer, and turnover will be even worse, i think.
     
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  19. iRun2Beer

    iRun2Beer Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2015 Minnesota

    Don't get me wrong, I totally understand that I'm only making the problem worse by choosing fresh beer over the shelf turds that have been sitting there for months. I understand that liquor stores/bottle shops have a bottom line and they need to move stock...it's a complicated issue.

    I'm not going to pretend that I know how to fix the problem, but here is what I would propose.

    Breweries who have an issue with their beer sitting on shelves could be better about making "Bottled on" dates easier to understand - no more of this coded bullcrap. Clearly marked "Bottled on" dates makes a purchasing decision that much easier. Better yet - go the way of Stone and make freshness the single most important marketing tactic, i.e. Enjoy By series.

    Second, I don't see why liquor stores and bottle shops can't do a better job of data analysis when determining quantities to buy from the distributor. By purchasing smaller quantities, you'll have less beers sitting on the shelves, and you'll increase the probability of a customer finding a fresh bottle. There are a few bottle shops around me that take the "less stock to stay fresh" approach and I frequent those places much more often than places that I know have the same exact IPAs sitting on the shelf as they did the last time I was there 3 months ago.

    In the end - to me, freshness trumps my desire to see a local bottle shop succeed. I can't help it - I crave fresh IPAs. I've been tricked into buying old past-their-prime IPAs way too many times, and I'm just not going to put up with it anymore. Sorry not sorry.
     
  20. dortenzio1991

    dortenzio1991 Crusader (486) Aug 12, 2011 Connecticut

    What kind of store loses a massive amount of it's business due to a brewery only release? That should be a problem right there.
     
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