Difference between 3F Kriek & 3F Oude Kriek?

According to agreement among the lambic/gueuze producers, a Kriek can be a lambic with cherry juice and/or sweetners (often artificial so they don't ferment) added to soften the flavors. An Oude Kriek is only made in the traditional fashion of adding sour cherries to the lambic and letting them ferment and impart flavor to the lambic.

 

Yes, this is why some Krieks taste like Cherry Syrup and some Taste like Sour Wild Cherries. I prefer Sour Wild Cherries myself, but whatever floats people's boats.

 

Its also why I won't drink bottled Faro or anything from Lindemans except Cuvee Rene. I'm a taster of artificial sweeteners and get metallic every time.

 

Interesting. Is an Oude Kriek typically a blend of young and old lambics, while a "regular" Kriek is make exclusively from young lambic? Or does that not factor into how a fruit lambic is defined at all?

 

Then don't try Boon's Kriek it's on that lines as well. Their Framboise is nice and Tart but their Kriek is like drinking Cherry Syrup from those Snowball Stand Containers.

 

No, the Kriek or Oude Kriek don't require blending of lambics. I think one or two brewers may do that with their Oude Krieks but am not sure. Once I figured out that Oude on Kriek and Gueuze meant traditional method to the brewers, thats about all I buy (when I can find one to buy.... ).

 

Great. Thanks!

 

I believe that fruited lambics are typically made using a 2 year unblended lambic

 

Here's a link to a website of one of the lambic brewers that has a nice explanation of most of what it take to be an Oude Kriek:

http://www.oudbeersel.com/en/products/oude-kriek/

 

That fits, since the goal is to get some refermentation going from the sugars in the cherries. The one year old still has some sugars left and the three year old is mostly dry.

 

Different labeling aside, 3F Kriek and Oude Kriek are the same beer.

I think maybe 3F starting calling it an Oude Kriek when they joined HORAL.

 

One has Schaerbeekse in it. It's right on the label....confusing of course cause most krieks do, but that is ALL that is in it as far as cherries go. Some Oude Krieks say it has as much as 35% Schaerbeekse, so there is a definite difference in the cherries used and % in the different batches.

Edit: 3F Kriek is generally refereed to as Schaerbeekse kriek. Not sure why it comes up as simply kriek on here.

Also BA has the wrong one label as no longer made. The white label 375 is retired. This is the one made now, a 750 http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2216/17647/

 

3F founded HORAL, and continued to bottle a regular Kriek for several years after. The Kriek which you can still get on draft at the brewery is not an Oude Kriek, because that style has to be bottled.

 

meant referred.....I doubt anyone referees beer often.

 

So what is the difference then?

I was under the impression that 3F does not make a sweetened kriek.

 

It doesn't require sweetening to be called a Kreik. But a Keik can be sweetened.

 

Actually the Scharbeekesee is a different Kriek where the name specifies the variety of cherries. It's listed as retired since it hasn't been made in 2-3 years. But the bottle I had was very different, because of the cherries, than the Oude Kriek.

 

So what is the difference? I was under the impression that they made two traditional krieks. The regular Oude Kriek and the schaerbeekse kriek.