New England IPA

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  1. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    No. I don't think that. All IPAs are about the same level of perishability. Cloudyness is not unique, etc., etc.
     
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  2. TheeWalrusHunter

    TheeWalrusHunter Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Oregon

    Although your story may seem pretty and logical - I completely disagree. Specific consumer items retain geographic descriptors not because of market saturation or prominence. They do so because of their origin story. If Vermont was the first to make such an IPA, then I say it might be fair to declare it so semantically. However, there must also be valuable and material difference between its product and those being consumed elsewhere (as mentioned previously in the thread).

    Lets say the above becomes true...

    ...The day that Cellar Maker, Alpine, Boneyard, Societe, and similiar west coast IPA factories write on their menu board "Vermont Style IPA" as a descriptor - is the day.. *insert impossible, apocalyptic, metaphorical clause here*
     
  3. sefus12

    sefus12 Pundit (938) Sep 7, 2006 Wisconsin
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    Some people just want their local products to be different and special. I don't get it. Maybe I should take the good IPAs that are made in KY and rally for a new style because these are made using limestone water as opposed to other forms of H2O.

    Not saying the IPAs made in the NE aren't good (some are great), but there's nothing that distinguishes them from IPAs made in every other part of the country. It's not as if they have their own hops only the NE is using. Make great beer? Absolutely. Create a new genre of a well-established style? Nope.
     
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  4. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Not really, it has to do with the signing of a Declaration of Independence, which did not take place in New England.
     
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  5. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Naw, you gotta get the mid-Atlantic to agree to that and they don't.... :-)
     
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  6. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Whoops. I missed the twinkle in your eye when you said that.
     
  7. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Whoah there. The East is not all on board with this. Gotta limit the conflict to the Northeast vs the rest of the world.
     
  8. Nmelione

    Nmelione Initiate (0) Dec 28, 2014 New Jersey

    ha this is crazy. If the IPA taste good I drink it, don't give a damn what you want to call it.
     
  9. MisSigsFan

    MisSigsFan Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2013 California

  10. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    The Heady Topper in my fridge from when I visted VT a couple weekends ago would disagree.

    In full disclosure, I'm mostly against new beer classifications in general. More often than not I find "new" beer styles are just a new trendy name for something that was always around within the existing styles, and has more to do with marketing and rebranding than the properties of the beer.
     
  11. bluehende

    bluehende Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Delaware

    Massachusetts wasn't British? And Floridians aren't Americans? And to be honest none of them were Americans. Only one race can lay claim to that.
     
  12. Rosinante

    Rosinante Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2014 Massachusetts

    Viking Tower in Newport, RI?
     
  13. Westyn

    Westyn Initiate (0) Feb 12, 2014 Texas

  14. jparizo

    jparizo Initiate (0) Jan 16, 2011 Indiana

    If there were an IPA brewed with some salt water, that could be called a New England IPA. Brewing a beer that isn't really any different than a lot of other unfiltered IPAs doesn't deserve a designation.
     
  15. Treyliff

    Treyliff Grand Pooh-Bah (5,025) Aug 10, 2010 West Virginia
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    Until New England is no longer part of "America," we should keep them classified as American IPA's.

    If this were a poll, it might be the most lop-sided poll in BA history.
     
  16. FaradayUncaged

    FaradayUncaged Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2014 Michigan

    Time to add a poll...
     
  17. sefus12

    sefus12 Pundit (938) Sep 7, 2006 Wisconsin
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    with about 98% of the "yes" votes coming from the New England area...
     
  18. HeyHayward

    HeyHayward Initiate (0) Dec 13, 2013 New York

    I agree with not establishing some new style or official classification, but it's a very useful descriptor.

    I also think folks on this thread have missed a couple fairly significant component that does lend a unique quality to New England style IPAs in some cases: Yeast & water source.

    Alchemist most notably use their own & there are rumors of other breweries having worked on proprietary strains,in addition to some other brewing techniques that contribute to this style (Tree House, HF, Alchemist, Lawson's, Fiddlehead, Trillium, Beer'd, etc..)

    I've still yet to find particularly good examples of these type of hoppy beers outside of the New England area, Topping Goliath would likely be the closest in my experience.

    I'm not making a value judgement, but I do think there are a handful of world class breweries in the region cranking out some unique hoppy beers and the market seems to agree.
     
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  19. Mshea805

    Mshea805 Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2014 California

    Only if we can add a cajun or swamp IPA category for Ghost in the Machine.
     
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  20. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Well, here you go. The moniker is being used commercially. Couple points about Harpoon IPA:

    - It probably would not be seen as a match for the kinds of IPAs the OP is describing
    - It's probably been around longer than any of the IPAs the OP is referring to
    - It's probably being poured from more tap handles in New England than any of the IPAs the OP is referring to
     
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