Secondary Fermentation: glass carboy only?

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  1. NGennaroL777

    NGennaroL777 Zealot (500) Aug 15, 2013 Massachusetts
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    The more I'm reading about secondary fermentation, the more
    I read that it must be done in a glass carboy. Any specific reason why we can't 2ndary in another plastic homemade fermenter other than the seal not being air tight on it?
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    It's not just the "seal." The material itself is oxygen permeable.
     
  3. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    Answered it yourself.

    This is in reference to extended secondaries
     
  4. sj3324

    sj3324 Zealot (586) Jun 9, 2011 Missouri
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    Are you talking a plastic carboy, or a bucket?
     
  5. NGennaroL777

    NGennaroL777 Zealot (500) Aug 15, 2013 Massachusetts
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    I was considering using a plastic bucket for my secondary.
     
  6. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    Glass if typically recommended for extended secondaries and bulk aging since it is not oxygen permeable. For shorter secondaries, simply leave it in the primary if you can.
     
  7. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    I wouldn't say that glass is recommended for extended secondaries and bulk aging. I mean, of course you will find people recommending that, but a lot of experienced homebrewers would recommend using BetterBottles (or similar competing products) instead.

    I don't have time to dig up a source right now, but I think that, when it comes to oxygen permeability, the difference between a bucket and a carboy is vastly bigger than the difference between a plastic carboy and a glass carboy. This is because, while plastic may be very slightly more oxygen-permeable than glass, this is dwarfed by the amount of oxygen ingress through the stopper/airlock. And on that dimension, buckets (with their unreliable seals) are greatly outperformed by both glass and plastic carboys.

    This is why, for instance, @OldSock lists glass carboys as a way to waste your beer money, writing: "I've had good luck with... kegs and plastic carboys for long term storage."

    I would advise using BetterBottles for long-term aging. Whether there is any reason to do a "secondary fermentation," which most people on this forum will tell you is unnecessary and inadvisable, is another question.
     
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  8. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Did you read the part where it says racking to a 2ndry is unnecessary in most cases?
     
  9. sj3324

    sj3324 Zealot (586) Jun 9, 2011 Missouri
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    I always thought the main reason you don't want to transfer to another bucket for secondary is all of the head space (oxygen) that would be in the bucket, compared to a 5 gal carboy.
    I personally don't transfer to secondary unless it is for long term aging (1 year + sours) or to add fruit.

    How long do you plan to be in secondary?
     
  10. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    Let's start with why you want to do a secondary?
     
  11. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I'm going to go out on a limb and guess "apples."
     
  12. NGennaroL777

    NGennaroL777 Zealot (500) Aug 15, 2013 Massachusetts
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    I'm aging the brown ale on apples, so in this case racking to a secondary is very necessary.
     
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  13. NGennaroL777

    NGennaroL777 Zealot (500) Aug 15, 2013 Massachusetts
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    2 Weeks in Secondary, 3 weeks in bottle.

    Im aging the brown ale on apples and adding caramel, which is why I need the secondary fermentation.
     
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