Total Rant From A Chick Who Loves Beer

I'll take Option B, and just leave it at that.

OP rants about an awful (yet all too common) experience for women in the craft beer world. And almost half the responses I read appear to reinforce her point. *sigh* Whether or not the other patron was trying to flirt is irrelevant, IMO.

 

I'm guessing a bit of A and B

It'd been one thing if she'd asked him. Or asked somebody else in the vicinity.

And I'm the type of guy who holds doors for women and all that stuff. But I'd never have assumed the OP didn't know anything about beer.

 

wow, I hope your kidding.

 

Awkward guy is awkward. I'd imagine after he was gone, he ran through that conversation in his head a hundred times, punctuated with "What the fuck did I say it like that for?"

It's hard for guys to flirt, a lot of the time, and when the brain stops controlling the situation, we can say stuff that is offensive and stupid. It's all an attempt to impress you, and sometimes a guy has to learn the hard way that being a condescending turd is not impressive.

 

About what?

 

One could argue that the O.P. actually promotes sexism by self describing as a "chick".

 

This response is pretty over the top. Its a bar, by definition a place to socialize. I don't see anything wrong with trying to socialize with someone else sitting alone at a bar. Isn't it just as sexist that you assume the guy is trying to get laid rather than just being friendly and chatting about beers.

Sounds like he was a bit of an ass, and maybe ran in the wrong direction with it, but I'm sure plenty of people would appreciate help with a lengthy list. And I'd be willing to bet that if you suggested a lighter beer to girl sitting at a bar you'd be right well over 50% of the time (and probably well over 50% of guys too).

Is it wrong to just assume a girl doesn't like or isn't knowledgeable about good beer? Yes. Would the world be better place if no one made assumptions about anyone else? Sure. But for all you people who are appalled by this horrifying act of sexism I have a question for you. Let's assume you know nothing about beer, sit down between a pretty girl and a neckbeard. You're have to ask one of them for recommendation and your life depends on picking the best beer. Who are you asking?

 

Sorry, I was just trying to start a conversation with you. You were cute and I had already had a few ciders. I just thought since I like them maybe you would too.

Sorry

 

why? calling your self a name on a web board makes you an expert in her point of view? geez no wonder women hate us.

of course then again HOW do we know its a women posting I guess....the whole thing could be troll bait. Now that I think about it.

 

This is the correct response.

 

He was hitting on you.... sad that is the only thing neckbeard guy can talk about lol.

 

The real takeaway here is that all our assumptions about neckbeards not having any game is entirely true. Seriously, would it've been so hard to lean over and say, "Anything look good on the menu tonight? Any suggestions?" You know, sort of start with the assumption that the girl is capable of knowing what she likes. That's too much to ask, isn't it?

 

Wow, a guy acts like a total douche and people on this board are bending over backwards to defend him. If I'm the OP, I don't know which I'd find more offensive, the original behavior or some of these responses.

 

To be honest, most people that know craft beer don't have to "peruse" a taplist. No offense, its just not common. For example, I'm going out with my fiance's friends tomorrow night to Headquarters Beercade in Chicago. I've already perused the taplist on line and I know exactly what I'm ordering when I go in there. The only curve ball that can possibly come my way is if they're out of everything I want to order.

Also, I'd assume that dude was hitting on you and he used the only "in" he had. Here's the best part, while you're busy calling him a sexist, he very well could have just been a nice guy trying to help a girl out. There are plenty of craft drinkers that are ready and willing to share knowledge with people. You could have just as easily said, "oh, I know what I'm doing, I'm just trying to decide what style I'm in the mood for." Could have ended up in a really nice conversation instead of immediately jumping to conclusions that he's a sexist freakazoid.

 

I could respond the sexist comment, but it would be easier if you could post a picture of yourself first.

It was clearly a pick up gone wrong.

 

Would a male patron at a bar begin a conversation with another male patron in the manner that the OP has described? Probably not. Yes, the bar is a considered to be a place for conviviality. But is awkward flirtation the only for it may take between men and women? Especially if it is not a "singles" bar? (Nothing the OP described suggests that it was.)

I'm a man, and I go to beer bars to drink beer. Especially when it is beer that I cannot obtain anywhere else. That is my purpose for going there, not to find a girlfriend. Why is it so difficult to assume that a woman would go to the bar for the same exact reason?

Yes, socializing is a perk of the bar experience. But there are many ways to socialize, and sad attempts at flirtation don't have to be the only possible interaction between men and women.

 

I don't think he was being sexist, he was probably doing one of the following:

Hitting on you
Genuinely trying to be helpful
Making idle chat

It may have been a combination of the above, too, but in any case many beer nerds(myself included) are socially awkward at times.

 

To everyone saying something to the effect of "OP should have ordered the best/biggest/highest ABV beer on the list! That will show him!" ... Allow me to retort. OP shouldn't have to order anything other than what she might normally order. You all toil under the delusion that her actions should be tailored to, in some way or another, affect the guy who was hassling her. He is owed none of her time and consideration.

 

telling her to delete the post part.

 

Really lame that people are defending this guy. Some of these responses are just as offensive as the action that caused the rant.