Total Rant From A Chick Who Loves Beer

Not sure I'm understanding your post. Polite or not, the woman is more likely than not to think I'm hitting on her. I never implied anything remotely related to intelligence level, as most people probably have me beat in that regard.

 

A thousand times this. And I just about guarantee if anyone was in a nearby booth listening, they would have been laughing their ass off at this guy's piss-poor attempt. Drinking well is the best revenge in this situation.

 

sounds like he was a douchebag, it happens, don't let one bad apple spoil the whole sixer of Angry Orchard

 

I don't see the point where this turned into "because you're a woman"...it was more along the lines he was a hipster beer snob....absolutely nothing to do with your sex.

 

Doesn't every Tap House or bar have this dickhead? One of the reasons I don't go to many tap houses is because of there are a lot of these people. You see it more in craft beer settings bars. The age is more of this up and coming self proclaimed experts ,typically younger , and only have been drinking beer for a few years now . But unfortunately this stuff goes on and probably will at any place men can congregate and drink. I second the GO FUCK YOURSELF RESPONSE.

 

Let me just say how glad I am not to be single nowadays. It looks too damn hard from both sides.

 

That wasn't me, rather it was the first person you quoted

 

First - I totally get your frustration. I think it's hysterical to see the look on people's faces when, while at a beer bar, someone asks my husband what he wants and he looks to me for guidance. Or how some people automatically hand me a Miller Lite at a BBQ when there are far better options.

That said, the vast majority on this website are men and a majority of those interested in craft beer in general are men. So it's not beyond belief that someone might assume a female in a beer bar might not be incredibly knowledgeable when it comes to the menu. Most - if not all - of my female friends order only Bud Light and constantly make fun of me for always looking for alternative options. If one of them were in a beer bar waiting for me and didn't know what to order, they would undoubtedly be appreciative of a cider suggestion.

Of course, they way this guy approached the situation was dumb, and just makes him look like a dick. But I don't think he is representative of the craft beer community in general. In fact, the sense that I get from these message boards (and of course there are a few exceptions) is that most guys on here are respectful and intelligent - not just to each other, but to women as well.

 

Haha I think next time it happens she should have a line ready, lke, "Thanks I could use a little help. I'm looking for something with a starting gravity somewhere around, I don't know, 30'ish Plato, good continental malt, not too hoppy, and I especially don't like Summit. What do you recommend?"

 

I'm a guy and this same shit happens to me in bars, restaurants or wherever. Most of the time I really don't want to spark up conversation with the happy drunk know-it-all sitting a couple seats down.

I usually act dumb to make them feel like they are helping pull my life out of the mediocrity its used to. Then I thank them for granting me access to their vast knowledge of fruity wheat ales.

 

Now I'm pissed that this could happen and I wouldn't be there to see it! I would put the over/under for "sounds that escape his mouth that don't actually make a word" at about 6.

 

what did you end up drinking?

 

my bad, it got confusing.

 

I don't believe that @Catchy_Name was inferring that she wanted to be hit on (as to invoke the disgusting "blame the victim" mentality), rather that it isn't exactly breaking news that men hit on women in bars. It's also very common to have women hit on men in bars. Nothing sexist in the inference. Furthermore, she shouldn't have to expect to be hit on but I would assume as a lady, she knows the likelihood exists that she will be hit on. This is due to the setting, not a sexist stereotype or a male dominance thing. Had she been hit on in a bottle shop, that would be more of an issue to me. Like, a real issue. That would be all sorts of creepy and such... There are still plenty of people that go to bars looking for a hook up and assume that others there, by themselves especially, may also be open to conversing with a potential suitor. Nothing sexist about that either, but rather a commentary on the condition of the environment.

The problem I have is that once rebuffed, said neck beard persisted. If the overwhelming opinion is that he WAS hitting on her, than any man that has social awareness should discontinue any attempt to "woo" a lady once rebuffed. Period. If he was not hitting on her, then yes he was a condescending dick but we may never know whether or not he may have been an equal opportunity dick and offer his unwarranted advice to any person regardless of sex.

 

While I have been known to be a jack-ass, I am pretty sure I am not sexist. I mean, I even let my wife vote for her own choices last year...

Seriously though, if it makes you feel better, it does go both ways (I didn't say equally). To quote another Ba:
"Why does the cashier always ask "What did you do wrong" when I'm buying my girlfriend flowers?"

"Why do people assume that when I'm grocery shopping that I'm going off a list a woman wrote for me?"

I would guess he was hitting on you. If so, he is worse at it than I ever was. Either way, he was trying to impress you with his vast knowledge, and should have dropped it when you showed no interest in any regard. The majority of people that I know are not that way at all. I never assume that I know more than the next guy or gal about anything (unless it comes to my Cincinnati Reds of course). Don't chase away all the ladies guys. It is a sausage fest in here already. Besides, we can drink the rest of their barrel aged stouts after they pass out

 

I agree with this, and I'm a little surprised you're the first to post with this opinion.

He could have just been a know-it-all jack ass, and would do this to anyone who saddled up to the bar alone. Even if it's likely he was hitting on her, it's just as bad to ASSUME this was done because the OP is a woman.

If a guy in a pink shirt came up to me and said the same thing, should I assume he's gay, that he's hitting on me, and that thinks I'm some Bud Light drinking bro who doesn't know about beer?

No, all I would think is, "This guy who likes pink shirts assumes I don't know anything about good beer. I'll politely correct him, and if he keeps pressing me I'll ignore him unless he doesn't shut up. In which case I'll kindly tell him to shut up."

Assuming this is sexist, and then complaining about it in a thread on Beeradvocate, is nearly as bad as the incident itself. If everyone wants to be treated equally, we all need to start thinking equally. Basically what @JDW4195 said, and the only thing we know for sure, "He was a hipster beer snob."

 

It is more likely he was hitting on her. However, there is enough of a chance that he was honestly trying to help (awkwardly) that maybe the benefit of the doubt is applicable here. Social interactions are hard and some people aren't very good at it. I am one of the talkative types that may annoy someone at times. I think I am good at taking clues, I have made many good friends at local tastings and beer events with a casual off the cup remark.

 

OP - I'm sorry that you had to experience that, and other forms of sexism - more so than myself or any other male beer geek on here will ever understand.

I'm also sorry that a few people on this very thread are making awful sexist stereotypes (and some of them think they aren't being sexist).

 

^Probably the best, most thought out, worth-while response so far (seriously. Not being sarcastic)