Ever blend Founders' two stouts?

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  1. brother_rebus

    brother_rebus Pooh-Bah (2,512) Jul 28, 2014 Maine
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    specifically Imperial and Breakfast?
    picked up both and thinking of doing it.
     
    #1 brother_rebus, Sep 7, 2015
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  2. msscott1973

    msscott1973 Pooh-Bah (1,739) Dec 28, 2013 North Carolina
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    No, but now I probably will.
     
    #2 msscott1973, Sep 7, 2015
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  3. boilermakerbrew

    boilermakerbrew Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2010 Indiana

    To me, there is really no need for blending Founders stouts. Specifically with Imperial and Breakfast, both have a good bitter component and wouldn't necessarily complement each other. Now if you would blend a sweeter component with Imperial (maybe like a Southern Tier Creme Brulee) then you might have something.
     
    #3 boilermakerbrew, Sep 7, 2015
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  4. Bogart2930

    Bogart2930 Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2015 Florida

    I've mixed rubaeus and the porter. Pretty tasty IMO
     
    #4 Bogart2930, Sep 7, 2015
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  5. brother_rebus

    brother_rebus Pooh-Bah (2,512) Jul 28, 2014 Maine
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    I thnk their similarities is the reason I would blend. Not looking for some staggering contrast of a snake bite or black n tan. Just trying to take two unbroken things, neither of which need fixing and seeing how they'd join.

    I like the idea of the porter too though.
     
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  6. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    They're both great beers I couldn't see the blend not being awesome.
     
    #6 Scott17Taylor, Sep 7, 2015
  7. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,999) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I might do this on tuesday, I have some super fresh breakfast and some less than a year old imperial stout.
     
    #7 FatBoyGotSwagger, Sep 7, 2015
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  8. brother_rebus

    brother_rebus Pooh-Bah (2,512) Jul 28, 2014 Maine
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    Both packs I got were brand new, so I'm gonna do it now and then try both with 10 months on them.
    Seeing as there hasn't been overwhelimg advice to NOT do it, it'll most likely happen this week.
     
    #8 brother_rebus, Sep 7, 2015
  9. spaceman24

    spaceman24 Initiate (0) Oct 7, 2008 Texas

    How is that?
     
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  10. brother_rebus

    brother_rebus Pooh-Bah (2,512) Jul 28, 2014 Maine
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    my 4pk of breakfast is dated 8/30/15.
    having one now. tasty. a little too crisp.
     
    #10 brother_rebus, Sep 7, 2015
  11. BradenMK

    BradenMK Pundit (897) Sep 24, 2012 Alaska

    You might be on to something, Rebus. If Bell's Black Note is a BBA'd blend of Expedition Stout and Double Cream, then why not see what a blend of Founder's Imperial and Founder's Breakfast tastes like? I've been wondering for years why we haven't seen a Founder's Imperial Breakfast Stout.
     
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  12. costanzo_mike

    costanzo_mike Pooh-Bah (2,848) Jul 17, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Interesting idea. I have some of both kicking around so I'll probably give it a try too
     
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  13. Scrapss

    Scrapss Pooh-Bah (2,220) Nov 15, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Suppose one had multiple fall/winter '13 and '14 of both FIS and FBS....and waited for fall/winter '15 for both FBS and FIS.

    '13 FBS and '13 FIS 2oz + 2oz
    '13 FBS and '14 FIS 2oz + 2oz
    '13 FBS and '15 FIS 2oz + 2oz

    '14 FBS and '13 FIS 2oz + 2oz
    '14 FBS and '14 FIS 2oz + 2oz
    '14 FBS and '15 FIS 2oz + 2oz

    '15 FBS and '13 FIS 2oz + 2oz
    '15 FBS and '14 FIS 2oz + 2oz
    '15 FBS and '15 FIS 2oz + 2oz

    That'd be a pretty good test to find the sweet spot for crossing it up?


    P.S. Anything over about 2 years cellaring on these is proving to be an oxidized chocobomb without careful waxing and colder handling.
     
    #13 Scrapss, Sep 7, 2015
  14. boilermakerbrew

    boilermakerbrew Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2010 Indiana

    Are you talking about both the FIS and FBS? I for sure agree with FBS being way better fresh and really dropping off with age. I haven't tried anything past a year on FBS because it wasn't very good at a year.

    On the other hand, I think FIS ages gracefully for years. Of course, proper cellar conditions help, but I have never waxed them.
     
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  15. Scrapss

    Scrapss Pooh-Bah (2,220) Nov 15, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    FIS is aging more gracefully for sure, but it's definitely a velvety chocobomb verging on that hint of oxidation at 2 years when subjected to upper cellar temps (approaching 60 degrees) without wax. I will be going to the trouble of waxing the next batches of both for any extended cellaring. I think it's more the caps and sealing that affects oxidation more so than anything else.

    So, for blending purposes, I think up to two years can be a fair test :slight_smile:
     
    #15 Scrapss, Sep 7, 2015
  16. eppCOS

    eppCOS Grand Pooh-Bah (4,570) Jun 27, 2015 Colorado
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    Would if they distributed to CO.
     
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  17. Wolfhead

    Wolfhead Pundit (795) Sep 1, 2009 Illinois

    I've never mixed Breakfast Stout with anything but I have mixed FIS with Double Trouble as I'm a Hophead and I like to make Hi Octane Black & Tans, with that said FIS is one of the Stouts I really like all by itself
     
    #17 Wolfhead, Sep 7, 2015
  18. slander

    slander Pooh-Bah (2,568) Nov 5, 2001 New York
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    Heck no, I ain't no mixologist.
     
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  19. brother_rebus

    brother_rebus Pooh-Bah (2,512) Jul 28, 2014 Maine
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    I could see the breakfast stout getting crummy. Maybe an older imperial with a fresh breakfast to liven it up would be the route to go. Also upon contemplating the porter more, I think it would work well with the breakfast. I think that coffee bite of breakfast would pierce the porter nicely.
     
    #19 brother_rebus, Sep 7, 2015
  20. njcraftguy

    njcraftguy Savant (1,070) Apr 6, 2015 New Jersey

    I've never thought about this and my first reaction was " why - they are both great " but now I'm thinking it might be worth a try. What's the worst that can happen ? If it sucks I won't do it again.
     
    #20 njcraftguy, Sep 7, 2015
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