Dark IPA?

I'm a big fan of Cascadian Dark Ales/Black IPAs! I brew a couple every year and have only been disappointed once. My last one started out as a "clean out the fridge/freezer" brew but turned out spectacular! I used some aromatic, rye, golden promise, Munich and only 1/2 lb of dehusked Carafa I...I used 4 3ml hop shots (1 @ 30, 1 @ 10 & 2 @ 0 for a 15 minute hopstand), an ounce of Nelson and Mosaic at 0 for the hopstand and 2 1/2 ounces Mosaic for dry hopping and I used BRY-97 West Coast yeast as well. It turned out a deep dark brown (srm was right at 25) instead of black, but it also had a nicely balanced "black"/slight roast characteristic. I had a 40th birthday party last month and this beer kicked very soon after the Zombie Dust clone, which was first...the SNPA clone was 3rd to kick, so that tells me the crowd liked it better than the old standby

 

I feel like my opinion doesn't matter. It seems that commercial brewers have a tough time selling beer if it doesn't have IPA in the name or some other reference to the sub continent e.g., India red ale, India pale lager, etc. I'm pretty sure that @CurtFromHershey 's India dark kolsch would outsell the best example of the Kolsch style merely because consumers would be fascinated with the name. It's frustrating to me to see enthusiasts so swept up in IPA that refreshing but more subtle styles must get a makeover to survive.

 

I'm getting a visual of some ancient Summerian dude ranting about how hops will ruin beer as he is ladling beer out of a mud puddle. I feel like an IPA apologist sometimes, just because the style is so popular now (although IPA bashing seems to be in vogue also). Drink what you like and damn the torpedos (pun intended) : )

Cheers

 

I personally like the Black IPA style. Dry, semi sweet, roasted malt acrid ness, paired with potent dank hop aroma and flavor.. yes please.

 

The name is incongruous, but haven't we reached the point where IPA is no longer an acronym but just means very hoppy beer?

Also, Dunkel Weisse seems to have established this incongruity previously.

I like (but don't love) Black IPAs, and I find them quite different from hoppy porters and stouts.

ETA: and I love some hoppy stouts and porters like FFF's Snow Weasel and Black Flame.