The Great Pumpkin

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  1. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I brewed the infamous Nut Brown recipe that is posted on Homebrewtalk * :

    http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=30187

    The recipe:
    11.00 lb Pale Malt
    1.0 lb Munich Malt
    1.0 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L
    1.0 lb Oats, Flaked
    0.75 lb Victory Malt
    0.75 lb Chocolate Malt
    1.5 oz Fuggles [4.0%]
    1.5 oz Goldings, East Kent [4.00%]
    1 Pkgs Nottingham (Danstar #-) Yeast-Ale

    I ramped it up to 6.5% ABV. I kept it proportional with everything but the Victroy malt. I weighed an eighth of a pound low. It was just based on what I had in the basement at the time. Victory could be kept proportional and the beer would still be very balanced.

    I made a pumpkin spice mix that follows:
    1T cinnamon
    1T ginger (powdered)
    2t mace (The stuff smells amazing!)
    and roughly 1 tsp of the following. This should be to taste.
    cardamom
    coriander
    nutmeg
    allspice
    a pinch of clove (This is the one I hate, but it rounds everything out in very small amounts)

    All these spices were ground fresh, sifted through a colander to remove shellls, coarse stuff and mixed together. I used a heaping 1/2 teaspoon just after high krausen and didn't think it was enough--until I got it on tap. The stuff is divine. I could add more to the keg or the pint glass if need be. If any of these spices are overkill for you, back them down! Go by taste and don't be afraid to mix testing batches in some hot water or some tea to test it. If you do this, let the spice steep for at least 5 minutes before you make up your mind on strengths of your spices.

    Feel free to add some darker roasts to this recipe too. (More)Chocolate, RB and patent malt would play nice for a porter or stout. I'll definitely be going this route next year.


    No, there's no pumpkin in this beer. You don't get much flavor out of the stuff and it's not worth a stuck mash.

    This is hands-down the best pumpkin beer I've ever tasted. It's not too sweet. It's not over spiced. It's balanced. An insinuation of spice to a tasty beer.

    *Where infamous = 51 pages of responses. I've brewed 20 gal based on this recipe.
     
    #1 inchrisin, Oct 3, 2015
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  2. Beerswimmer

    Beerswimmer Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2013 Texas

    I'll try to make this tomorrow to be ready for Halloween!
     
  3. Beerswimmer

    Beerswimmer Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2013 Texas

    Into the fermentor at a kicked up OG 1.09 :slight_smile:
     
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  4. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    This sounds great. I'd try this if I hadn't brewed and bottled my pumpkin beer already...
     
  5. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I'll bring it up again next year with the inevitable question, "How Much Pumpkin Should I Mash?"
     
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  6. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    Do you mind sharing what you added to increase your OG? I'd like to make this at about the same OG and compare this to my pumpkin ale that's 3 weeks in.
     
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  7. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I just tried to add everything proportionally to ramp it up. I think that just adding more base malt would back the color down a little more towards an amber, (not a bad thing). Mine is very dark brown and nearly a porter color.
     
  8. Beerswimmer

    Beerswimmer Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2013 Texas

    i'm on a self induced extract/partial mash kick, and I couldn't buy all the ingredients locally so:

    6lbs light DME
    3lbs dark DME
    and all the specialty grains upped to an even 1lb.
     
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  9. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    so for this you'll just steep the specialty grains for 20-30 minutes at around 160 F?
     
  10. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    ...and you will answer with "none!". Although I am tempted to try butternut squash or some other sort of fall gourd for next year's beer. If I do, I'd probably still use this recipe for the base. Could be interesting – A Butter Nut Brown
     
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  11. Beerswimmer

    Beerswimmer Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2013 Texas

    I did 152F for 45mins.
     
  12. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    There will be a pumpkin shortage this year. Illinois grows 90% of America's pumpkin crop. This year's yield will be 1/3 less than usual. So you may not be able to buy pumpkin at the end of the summer next year. They expect to sell out before the end of this year.
     
  13. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    I know... it's still only July and I haven't even started thinking about fall yet. BUT, I'm trying to line up a few recipes for the next few months and remembered this one. @inchrisin did you only add 1/2 teaspoon of the pumpkin spice mix to the fermenter? No boil additions or anything? I've been looking forward to trying the infamous Nut Brown recipe for a while now, with a few tweaks to my liking. Just trying to nail down some specifics on the recipe, and I know you said that was a good amount for just a hint of spice.
     
  14. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    The spice was added to the fermenter. It wasn't boiled and it wasn't much spice. It was freshly ground and was as potent as possible, so if you're pulling from preground tins you might have to add more. You might also like more spice than I do. I'd say go light, add to the fermenter if you need to, and have it taste right by the time it hits keg.

    (Going from memory here) I believe the beer was roughly 6 weeks to 2 months old when I posted that recipe. It turned out great and I'll be rebrewing it again this fall. I did notice, however, that the beer did become a little thin as it aged and the spice settled out some. It was great until the keg kicked anyway. Things I'll tweak: I will look for a low attenuating English yeast to try to keep it chewy. if I were to use Notty on it again I'd bump up the mash temp up to 155 or 156. That strain's a monster. :slight_smile: I wouldn't hold you back from adding the first 1/2tsp to flameout or the last 5 min of the boil. I would taste carefully after the beer hits FG to decide if you want to add more.
     
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  15. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    Great, thanks for the pointers. I'll probably add 1/2 tsp at flameout, and taste to make sure the second addition to the fermenter isn't too much. I would rather have the spice be too subtle than to overspice. Been there, done that.. ! Never used Notty before, but I'll try and shoot for a higher mash temp. Fall is a good time for 'chewier' beers :astonished:
     
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  16. Hogue2112

    Hogue2112 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2016 Ohio

    I believe I m going to brew this bad boy up at the end of August!

    Do any of you have any brew notes or anything? Anything you wish you would have changed? I know @inchrisin you mentioned if you use Notty you would bump up the Mash temp a bit. Have other Yeast suggestions?

    Any benefit to doing a protein rest or anything at 120ish? I can do about a 2 step with my cooler tun with a fly sparge and decocting pot.
     
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  17. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I don't take notes anymore. I tend to make tweaks to recipes, but I just brew for fun and for something tasty to drink. Grains are so modified you probably won't get much benefit out of a protein rest anyway. I won't tell you not to do a double decoction. I wouldn't :slight_smile:

    I think you should chose your favorite English yeast, honestly. You might not have to worry about a high FG with some of the sluggish ones. The mineral profiles of most the yeasts should play nice with the malts and should work well with the spices. Just focus on getting it as spicy as you like. 1/2 as much as you think in the boil, and then tweak it at the end of primary. Wyeast Irish 1084 is a house yeast for me. That'll be the next one I use. I'm in the process of buying a house so it might have to be a winter warmer for me instead of a Halloween beer. ^.^
     
  18. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    How did this turn out for you?
     
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  19. Hogue2112

    Hogue2112 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2016 Ohio


    Awesome! I have not delved much into the English yeast's to be honest. Hence why I asked for some input :slight_smile: I think I may go with the Notty.

    That's awesome that you have a house yeast going! I would like to get there. We have about 3 different cultures going on right now.
     
  20. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    House yeast is a loose term meaning the strain is either on tap or there's a culture in the fridge 365 at my house. :slight_smile: The Notty's absolutely a good choice. I tend not to like this yeast in other English beers but it does well here.

    I brew every month to 6 weeks. It's hard to keep more than 2 or 3 types chugging along.
     
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