Exploding tired hands growler

If they are exploding before or as you leave TH, I am not sure how you put the blame on the consumer.

 

I have no idea, but they're a cinch to be found guilty of negligence if someone gets seriously injured. This fix literally costs nothing - in fact, probably saves money by saving an ounce or 2 every fill. I guess you could just pop them open and drink an ounce or 2 before leaving.

 

Of course you can't, that's silly. And since they aren't telling you you need to keep them cold, and one would reasonably expect to be able to take them home at room temperature, you can't blame the consumer there either.

 

Do you have an idea or guess on why Tired Hands is not providing information in this matter?

Cheers!

 

Don't you know, Jean is infallible and nothing he does is done incorrectly. Like the 2 years they sold millions of dollars of flat growlers to the public and wouldn't acknowledge it?

 

I have consumed a lot of Tired Hands beer but it has all been on premise (Café, Fermentaria and now at select beer bars). I have zero personal experience concerning Tired Hands growlers.

This is the first time that I have read about growlers being flat in the past.

Drinking a beer that is under-carbonated is a less than satisfying drinking experience but there is no health risks associated with it.

Exploding growlers is a different matter altogether. I have read more than one story of people getting cut by exploding growlers. An old saying that I have heard from my parents (many, many years ago) is: “It’s all fun and games until someone loses an eye”. Apparently this saying is from ancient Roman times.

Do we have to wait until somebody posts about a customer losing their eye from an exploding growler until this issue is publicly addressed by Tired Hands Brewing?

I think it would be better to avoid this situation now but maybe this is just me!?!

Cheers!

 

Over 100 growlers, never flat. Guess I am lucky?

 

And if you never suffered personal injury from an exploding growler you are 'extra' lucky.

Cheers!

 

Yeah you must be like the messiah. Because in the first 2 years of tired hands existence I rarely got a growler that I would consider acceptable carb and I got a couple dozen that were pretty much completely flat within a day of purchase. P once bought 6 2L growlers of the Light that spills and drove home(15 min) and opened one and it was undrinkable. Totally flat. I ended up drain pouring 130 dollars in beer. That was awesome. It soured me to TH for about a year.

There are like 3 dozen threads complaining about past carb issues with their growlers so I would say you are in the minority.

Thankfully they finally seem to have worked out whatever problems they were having because the growlers I get now are wonderful.

I have not had any exploding growlers but I have seen at the 3rd anniversary party many growlers explode. Wasting one of the best beers they ever made, the first batch of Mosaic Mago Tago(The second batch was terrible)

 

Hey, I am extra lucky!

 

And that is the good thing; and worthy of the emoticon of

For those folks that have experienced exploding growlers (and personal injury) permit me to offer up a different emoticon

Cheers!

 

I am no messiah, ask my wife. As @JackHorzempa pointed out I am just one lucky dude.

 

I wanted to comment on a few points...

I keep a close eye on exploding growlers and I have not seen or heard of an incident in the past month or so, not on here or in all of the local Facebook groups that are very active with TH beer drinking and growler posts that if anything happens, you'll sure hear about it. Keep in mind that at this point, I believe most people are popping the caps at some point between purchasing and drinking to relieve pressure so I think that contributed to the lack of incident.

I do not think filling the growlers to the brim is the reason at all. They have done this since the place opened and growlers exploding are very recent phenomenon. I really think this is a combo of growler integrity and higher carbed beer issue forming a perfect storm, but I also believe that it's more so growler integrity. Also, fruited and non-fruited beers were reported so that's not the reason either. Last I heard from a few reliable sources that Tired Hands is still looking to switch to 750ml and 2L swing tops, which are both thicker and more sturdy. If anyone talks to Jean again, you can inquire about that. I will if I see him next time.

Once again, I will point to my anecdotal experience that, between shipping close to 200 growlers and consumed, picked up, gifted, etc. probably another 150 or so growlers, I only logged exactly 3 flat growlers. One was in a trade that I attributed to the cap being on incorrectly, the other I forgot to tape the swing arm, and the 3rd was a 2L growler of a beer that was low carb to begin with. @nesarebad isn't the only lucky person and I know that the majority of people I know don't have growler carb issues.

 

I have only ever had 2 flat ones, both of The Light. I have had several that I thought were flat, where the second pour was much more carbed than the first. I know flat growlers have happened, but I don't think it's that widespread.

However, I linked to a document above that specifically says that overfilled growlers exert unusually high pressure on the vessel when allowed to warm, and are a hazard to explode. So overfilling definitely is the culprit, probably that combined with the much higher carbing their beers have these days. That would also explain why the problem is unique to Tired Hands, for the most part. I don't know any other brewer that fills growlers all the way to the top. In fact, all the beginner homebrewing books point out that not leaving headspace in bottles is a bad idea. I have to assume that this is the reason why.

 

I will ask one more time, why do you think that Tired Hands is not explicitly addressing this topic?

Cheers!

 

I'm not sure how many people came to Jean with the info, if anyone at all. If Tired Hands customers/fans come and express concerns to him personally, that would definitely help. I personally find Jean extremely approachable and easy to talk to. I just haven't seen him in a while to talk to him about the growler issue, suspected reasons, and what they are planning on doing about it.

 

I must say the rampent growler explosions have significantly decreased. I havent seen carnage photos is roughly 2+ months. Maybe its the new growlers, maybe its the fill techniques, but whatever they're doing its working.

 

It's a bit naive to think that Jean doesn't know that hundreds of dollars of gift cards are being given out to compensate people that have had growlers explode on them.

 

Right, but that's for bottle conditioning your beers. Growler filled beer should (hopefully) not still have fermentable sugars.

 

If you traced the discussion back, the context of that comment was in regard to the fill level being the potential cause, not regarding knowledge of exploding growlers. Jean is well aware of that, including having witnessed it personally at the Para4 release.