Green olive taste in certain stouts

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  1. Breaking_Beard

    Breaking_Beard Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2014 Michigan

    In the past few weeks I have had two different stouts that had a noticeable green olive taste and aroma. The first was Guanabara, and the second was Siberian night. I found the Guanabara almost un-drinkable, the Siberian night was not as off putting.

    Has anyone else had this experience? I have been told I have a strange palette by a few people in the past.
     
  2. MikeySea

    MikeySea Pooh-Bah (2,165) Sep 17, 2015 Arizona
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    Olives, no. Soy sauce, bigtime. I think my palate isn't quite used to a lot of BIG beers yet. I get rotten onions from most DIPA's and everybody else is going, haha, you're high. :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  3. Raime

    Raime Pooh-Bah (1,935) Jun 4, 2012 North Korea
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    Better than the onions I taste in some IPAs :wink:

    But I've only noticed olives in a Porter..once...a few years go
     
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  4. Punisher1976

    Punisher1976 Devotee (308) Jan 4, 2015 Michigan
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    1st Prairie bomb! I had tasted like green olives, everyone thought I was crazy. Prairie made it right though, and the three they sent me were fantastic.
     
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  5. floridadrift

    floridadrift Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2014 Florida

    Guanabara is awesome but I haven't had Siberian Night. Sounds like a pallet issue or bottle variation. No big deal though, just don't manifest by thinking about that olive taste before drinking something new, like an anxiety.
     
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  6. lester619

    lester619 Initiate (0) Apr 17, 2009 Wisconsin

    Maybe someone has started making a martini stout. It worked with bourbon.
     
  7. MikeySea

    MikeySea Pooh-Bah (2,165) Sep 17, 2015 Arizona
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    The Shaken, not Stirred Stout.
     
  8. tobelerone

    tobelerone Grand Pooh-Bah (4,220) Dec 1, 2010 New Jersey
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    That is an odd one that I've never noticed, and I've had a lot of different stouts, but I'll definitely be on the lookout in the future!
     
  9. tillmac62

    tillmac62 Pooh-Bah (2,859) Oct 2, 2013 South Carolina
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    I haven't and I'm a huge stout fan/drinker. I don't like olives, so I assume I would pick the flavor out. Were the bottles old, stored improperly or some other assignable cause?
     
  10. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    Only time I've gotten green olive from a beer is with certain strains of Brett. Maybe those beers were somehow infected with Brett?
     
  11. gopens44

    gopens44 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,560) Aug 9, 2010 Virginia
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    I have always tasted massive green olive in Torpedo, but I can't recall it in any stouts.
     
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  12. Mongrel

    Mongrel Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2013 Maryland

    That's that umami. I get a salty/savory flavor from lots of big, bitter stouts and I love it. I've never had the two that you mention, but Ten Fidy and Expedition come to mind.
     
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  13. blivingston1985

    blivingston1985 Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2010 North Carolina

    I can't say I've ever picked green olive as a descripter for a stout, but that doesn't mean you aren't tasting it. I agree with the soy sauce flavor/aroma being more common and possibly what you might be perceiving as green olive. Have you had a green olive lately? Taste/smell one after sipping a Siberian Night. Taste/smell some soy sauce while you're at it. See if that seems to be what you are really tasting.
     
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  14. rphx88

    rphx88 Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2014 Arizona

    I may sound like a wimp but I find the soy sauce taste in some stouts and the onion in some ipas to be god awful. But hey that's just my palate.
     
  15. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 Maryland

    I've noticed some "Green Olive" notes in some Hoppy Brews. It might be just certain Hop Acids gives off those Flavors/Aromas. I've gotten some Flack because I pickup "Green Pepper Skin" flavors on Amarillo Hops other than Citrus.

    Edit: Those Stouts might be Hoppier than Normal Stouts, that would be my Guess.
     
  16. KingEdward

    KingEdward Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2010 North Carolina

    North Coast Brother Thelonious has an olive brine taste imo... one of the worst beers i have ever had...
     
  17. gardenstatepkwy

    gardenstatepkwy Zealot (541) Jun 1, 2014 New Jersey

    Not so much in stouts but I immediately thought olive the first time I tried Rayon Vert. So much so my fiance and I refer to it as the "olive beer".
     
  18. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Which aspects of the green olive taste are you getting?

    A quick search of beer off flavors and green olive doesn't come up, but sour/salty comes up frequently within that context which sort of points toward the soy sauce off notes.

    If I remember right, green olives are cured in lye, caustic soda, salt brine, or other stuff to make them edible. So just thinking that the olive taste might be representing something else - obviously some taste is triggering the "that reminds me of olives" response, but maybe it's not exactly olives? Lactic or acetic acid, maybe? Just a thought.
     
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  19. breadwinner

    breadwinner Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2014 California

    I've heard this one before with coffee stouts -- some folks get green peppers, especially as the coffee ages.

    Green olives? I dunno. I do think stouts can offer up some weird aromas/flavors, particularly at different temperatures, that defy what our eyes assume out of a stout (dark, roasty, chocolatey, coffee-like flavors). So, wouldn't surprise me if you're getting some interesting notes, OP. Probably even moreso if you add a variable like coffee or barrel-aging.
     
  20. bryanole27

    bryanole27 Initiate (0) Jun 24, 2011 North Carolina

    For me, olives (but green and black) are on the same taste plane as licorice. Perhaps any hint of anise is being picked up as olive-like. I can see that.
     
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