Bottling buckets... What the?

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  1. Bearded_beer_guy_

    Bearded_beer_guy_ Initiate (0) May 16, 2015 Australia

    So, I've been lurking on some home-brew forums lately and something new popped up... Bottling buckets!
    Apparently you mix an amount of corn dextrose with water then top up your bottles and it carbonates your bottles more evenly.

    Does anyone have any experience with this and what are the pros and cons, if there are any.

    Cheers and thanks in advance.
     
  2. monkeybeerbelly

    monkeybeerbelly Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2012 New York

    Yes you should use one.
    See how-to-brew.
    End thread
     
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  3. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I'd venture to say that 95% or more of us have used a bottling bucket at some point. What carbonation method do you want to compare to, i.e. what are you doing now?
     
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  4. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    I think they use those carb tablets down under.

    I can not think of any downside to batch priming with dextrose in a bottling bucket over carb tabs. thinking... no. none.

    Cheers.
     
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  5. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Biggest advantage is that it is cheaper than carb drops and allows for more precise varying of carbonation levels without doubling (or halving) carb drops...oh..., and you don't have to use dextrose...table sugar is fine...just make sure you weigh your priming sugar instead of using volume measurements.

    http://www.brewersfriend.com/beer-priming-calculator/

    Cheers, mate.
     
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  6. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Besides better/easier/cheaper carbonation control, you can use the little filler gadget that makes life on bottling day a bit easier. I'm kinda struggling with the "how else would you get the beer in the bottle otherwise" than rack off from fermenter into bottling bucket (equipped with spigot/filler gizmo) and mix the sugar solution into the bucket contents and be done with it is pretty much all I can picture. Siphoning into bottles - all I can envision is aggravation.
     
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Larry, that is how I do it. My 'bottling system' is a racking cane, tubing, and bottle filler. FWIW, I suffer no aggravation with this system.

    Cheers!

    P.S. I do use a bottling bucket, just a bucket with no spigot.
     
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  8. STL_Todd

    STL_Todd Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2015 Missouri

    Given the beginner nature of the question, don't forget to gently stir after adding the priming sugar. Also, I keg mostly now, but experiment with some different sugars such as corn sugar, table sugar, maple syrup, honey, agave nectar (just has to be fermentable). Those last three will not ferment out completely and therefore leave a light lingering taste which can be a plus with certain styles.
     
  9. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Yes, but you have the filler gadget - I was picturing just siphoning without the filler and beer ending up all over the floor...it's been a long day :confused: I like the bucket/spigot since I can put it on the counter with the spigot hanging over the edge. I cut the tubing on the filler down so it is only about 2" long and just let it hang off the spigot. Hands-free, open the spigot about halfway.
     
  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Is the tubing reaching the bottom of the bottle? Filling up bottles from the bottom is 'better' since it mitigates agitation of the beer with the air in the bottle, less dissolved air/oxygen from a process such as this.

    Cheers!
     
  11. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Of course - I snipped the poly tubing where it connects to the spigot. Lift the bottle up rather than handling the filler. Full case of empties on right side, small table on left side like a little one person assembly line. Do a few at a time and cap.

    I have this one and it came with a mile of tubing, so I cut the tubing short rather than wrangling the tubing to the bottles. Lift, open the spring valve with the bottle, fill fill fill, repeat :wink:

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  12. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I think I know what you mean, but just for clarity... The sugars in maple syrup, honey, and agave nectar will completely ferment. But there are lots of other non-sugar compounds, including water, in them. These unfermentable compounds (except for the water and I imagine some other flavorless compounds) add their own flavors.

    When using honey/syrups for carbonation, it's important to know the sugar content in order to figure out how much of the honey/syrup to use. It's not a 1:1 substitute for corm sugar or table sugar.
     
  13. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada


    I thought all bottling buckets came with spigots :slight_smile: ...in case you want to use it as a 2-4 gal fermenter when siphoning got old :rolling_eyes:
     
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  14. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    Crap. Forgot to do this when bottling my second batch over the weekend.


    I love this idea, but my bottling device likes to drip. I guess it will drip one way or another, won't it... I might have to try this.
     
  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Barry,

    I did take note of the smiley emoticon but you got me thinking. I purchased my homebrewing equipment over 20 years ago at my LHBS. The starter set of equipment came with a ‘plain’ bottling bucket (no spigot). I have been using this same bucket for the past 20+ years (and 364 batches, so far).

    Maybe this type of equipment is passé?

    I went to the Northern Brewer website and I took note that as part of the Essential Brewing Starter Kit they do indeed provide: “6.5 Gallon Bottling Bucket, Bottling Spigot”

    http://www.northernbrewer.com/brewing/beer-equipment-starter-kits/essential-brewing-starter-kit

    I suppose this just goes to show that I am ‘old school’.:astonished:

    Cheers!
     
  16. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    It does drip a bit, but I put a tray on the floor or a wad of old towels. Way worse until I closed down the spigot a bit. Just seemed the logical way to go when I didnt know any better!
     
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  17. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Most bottling buckets with or without spigots were only 5 gal originally (if I remember right) which is why I suggested using for a 2 to 4 gal fermenter...you obviously don't like spigots on any size bucket or you wouldn't be siphoning at this point...you are "old school", Jack, but the real dinosaurs are using carboys :grimacing:
     
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  18. Bearded_beer_guy_

    Bearded_beer_guy_ Initiate (0) May 16, 2015 Australia

    At the moment Im using a scoop designed for 750ml bottles. I charge each bottle, fill it then turn it upside down a few times. The carbonation can vary a lot through each different batch.
     
  19. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Sounds like you're getting inconsistent amounts of sugar in each bottle. Weighing would be better than measuring by volume, but that would be a real PITA for individual bottles.
     
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