IPA Ignorance

It is listed as an english ipa and there is an american ipa category as well...

 

I see the issue. Some Americans are used to their "Standard" IPAs. When they drink an English Style IPA they feel it's not "In Yo Face" with Hops.

 

What CTbrew said, but I do think there is a kneejerk 'IPA gotta be super hoppy' reaction. Beers should be reviewed as to where they stand in their style. It's the old 'apples and grapefruity' thing! I had a few Guinness IPAs last night and enjoyed 'em.

 

And some of those 'hopbombs' from a couple of decades ago (like Sierra Nevada Pale Ale or Harpoon IPA) don't seem hoppy anymore at all.

 

So how is that nitro IPA stuff anyway? The whole concept seems a little odd to me.

 

Definitely this. Most reviewers, including myself, probably haven't had enough english ipas to even know what to truly expect from the style. We're just used to aggressive ipas, but its still not an excuse to blatantly ignore styles.

And @hudsonvalleyslim I feel what I noted above is one of the problems with rating to style. Of course you can read up on styles to try and figure out what to expect, but nothing beats actual practice. Unfortunately the options for english ipas, let alone fresh ones, is limited in America so getting that experience is difficult.

 

Nitro tap is how they enjoyed it in India back in colonial days.

 

The line between APA and IPA, and IPA and DIPA is already so blurred, I can't believe your complaining about this.

 

Those darn Brewers... Continuing to Reinvent the Wheel.

 

Maybe taste that swill and see if you ride as high on that horse..

 

Huh. Well there you go. Is it any good? I'm curious but not buy a six pack curious.

 

Well done! The fact that, for many, modern American IPAs are seen as proper IPAs is unfortunate...'Malt forward' IPAs are often classified as 'English style'. How absurd! The fact that 'English' is (again, often) used as a pejorative term is, again, unfortunate. Proper (English) IPAs should be called 'IPAs' while American versions should be considered just that...An American version of a very old English beer, which would have been aged 12-18 months before sale...dry, bitter etc. Of course it changed in the 20th century...when a 3.5% bitter might have been called an IPA...Anyway, the use of flavourful aromatic hops is new...

 

I love IPAs, I do not really like English Style IPAs. Granted I'm fairly limited to Neshaminy Creek Blitzkreig and Sam Adams products, but theyre just to malt forward to my liking. I'm thinking I can take ant double ipa, let it sit for 3-4 months and mimic the idea. But that's me.

 

I've always liked Summit and Goose Island's IPA's. The call them English style, but I'm guessing they're still closer to the more hop forward American version.

 

I get what you're saying, but what makes you think that the Guinness IPA is anything like a "traditional English beer?"

(and the Guinness website describes this beer using the terms citrus and pine)

 

Yes, it is only recently that Goose Island called their IPA 'English style'. It was after the takeover...To me it's very American...

 

This is where beer designations hurt my head. I like GI IPA for what it is, or what the designation is. It's a really solid EIPA. But as an american version, it is lacking in quite a few categories. I guess what I'm trying to say is, it can go from good to great depending on your expectations of its said style.

 

Actually I am shocked at your level of ignorance on what in IPA is and what it was. It was never an ale hopped to survive the trip over the Indian Ocean. That theory has been proven to be a myth. Beers were hopped very heavily but then aged for months if not Years. Porters were hopped equally as heavy as ales but NEVER were they hopped to survive the voyage. You need to read some more about beer before insulting people on something you don't know about.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/ipa-myth.278152/