Time to drop "Craft" from Craft Beer?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Seanem44, Dec 9, 2015.

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  1. Seanem44

    Seanem44 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2014 Virginia

    Craft beer is everywhere. And that's a really, really great thing. But now since the market has such a saturation of it, maybe its time we drop the craft and just call it beer.

    The reason I primarily bring this up is due to the big beer companies trying to squeeze craft beer out of the market. There have been several articles and posts on the incentives programs, etc.

    The term craft beer in a way creates an us versus them type of battle. It also provides more fodder for news articles.

    Personally, when I tell my wife I'm going to get beer, I never say, I'm going to go buy craft beer. Even though that's the only thing I buy.

    Maybe its best we drop the craft portion and just call it what it is. Beer.

    Just a thought. I don't care either way. Just something I was mulling over myself at lunch.
     
  2. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    I think most of us we agree we only ever use the term 'craft beer' to differentiate it from the big dogs. It is still annoying. Someone here on BA once said it best:

    "There is no such thing as craft beer. There is only beer you like, and beer you don't like."
    -Unknown
     
  3. Joshmistake

    Joshmistake Initiate (0) Sep 4, 2012 Minnesota

    I am of the opinion that there has to be some designation...what that would be is the question. "Beer"...yes, that's technically what it all is...but I think the BA needs to come up with something better. I think there is a difference between Surly and Macro adjunct lagers. I also think there is a difference between Sierra Nevada and Ballast Point due to ownership. That should also play in to the definition IMO.
     
  4. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,999) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Craft has never truly had any meaning other than volume produced and that changes with the seasons. Has never meant or gaurnteed quality product but many think of it as implied quality.
     
  5. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    I will also point out that it is a useful term within the context of working in the distribution business. No less annoying. Just useful.
     
  6. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    If that's the only thing you buy, then craft beer is a thing to you, and you've made a distinction right there.
     
  7. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,191) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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    That unknown person is me who said that...

    Word.
     
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  8. CheapHysterics

    CheapHysterics Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2009 Pennsylvania


    Not calling it craft won't protect its space on your supermarket's shelves.
     
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  9. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    That stuck with me!
     
  10. MNBeer1017

    MNBeer1017 Initiate (0) Mar 27, 2013 Minnesota

    Time to create a new thread for no reason
     
  11. Vitamin_Hop

    Vitamin_Hop Pundit (812) Mar 26, 2015 Illinois
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    Don't drop the name, just come up with new names. Beer>craft beer>artisanal beer
     
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  12. mrmattosgood

    mrmattosgood Maven (1,301) Nov 6, 2010 Canada (BC)

    We've all been at a bar or restaurant unfamiliar to us and asked for he "craft" options. I'm now thinking its kind of douchey. Imagine going to the same bar or restaurant and when ordering a Reuben, you asked, "Do you have an artisanal cheese options?"

    Call it beer.

    If I go to a friends house and he offers me a beer, I will say yes even if it's an 80% chance it's a fizzy yellow beer.
     
  13. AugustusRex

    AugustusRex Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2013 Canada (ON)

    I never understood the term Craft beer, and I don't associate myself with it because of stereotypes about hipsters and other arrogant people.

    Plus, when I got into beer it was all traditional European stuff. I only slowly started drinking IPAs and stouts when I realized some examples had a similar level of quality.

    Plus, I think a lot of older American craft breweries now deserve to be considered Traditional rather than craft. Sierra Nevada and Anchor for example.
     
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  14. TonyLema1

    TonyLema1 Pooh-Bah (2,890) Nov 19, 2008 South Carolina
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    Drop it, drop it now. I hate useless distinctions like that. I can't stand when the words old fashioned, or country fresh are put in front of something to lure in the lemming-like public...my newest hatred is a local restaurant that serves hand-cut steaks. How else do you cut them?
     
  15. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Have you contacted Uncle Charlie (Papazian), Ms. Herz and Mr. Gatza, the other officials and member breweries of The Brewers Association yet? The didn't invent the term but they popularized it and their group claims to be a "passionate voice" for the brewers of it.
     
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  16. monkeybeerbelly

    monkeybeerbelly Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2012 New York

    the bros (@Jason @Todd) mentioned dropping the term "craft" from beer in the first word of the beer advocate magazine probably a year ago, dont remember which issue.
     
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  17. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    We've been talking about this for many years now, and discontinued our general use of it quite a while ago; unless the topic specifically refers to it.
     
  18. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    "Craft" manages to be meaningless and misleading at the same time. Nobody seems to have a useful definition of the word other than beer not produced by the mega breweries.It carries connotations of a quality product, though it may in fact be mediocre or worse, being brewed in a labour intensive "hands on" way. Only the tiniest of tiny breweries don't utilise automation.
    It's really redundant in conversation. I don't say to somebody "Shall we go for some real ale ?" (or cask ale) just "How about a pint?" which serves just as well.
     
  19. OldManMetal

    OldManMetal Savant (1,071) Jun 5, 2015 North Carolina

    I generally use "good" if I need a descriptor of distinction when I talk about beer.

    "Hey, I hear you really like beer."
    "Well, I really like *good* beer..."

    Of course, "good" is completely subjective... and that's good too.
     
  20. westcoastbeergeek

    westcoastbeergeek Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2015 Canada (BC)

    Honestly, I'd say we should us it more. Here's the google search term results for beer vs craft beer

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