trade dispute resolved: @gonzohomebrewer

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by YvesB, Dec 11, 2015.

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  1. YvesB

    YvesB Initiate (0) Oct 20, 2015 Belgium
    Trader

    first of all, this guy already has one topic. Alas, it was quite down the forum list and I didn't notice it until after I shipped out.

    http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/bad-trader-gonzohomebrewer.274511/


    the facts:

    we agreed on a large (international) trade the end of october (my 10+ cantillon bottles for his 10+ stouts). I send out 2 boxes november 6th which he received november 17th. Didnt hear anything from him from the moment we agreed until he received my part. He was very happy and would ship out the next day from his work (apparently a liquor store). Should have been a simul-send.
    On november 24th another message that he would ship today and give me a tracking number. That's the last I heard and haven't received anything yet.
    Have send him messages since, the last message on december 4th 1.58pm. He was last online december 4th around 7pm.

    He's very friendly, accomodating and generous, as I can read in the other topics, but there's nothing coming through and I think i've been patient enough.

    If i need to provide any more details, let me know.
     
  2. blue-dream

    blue-dream Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2013 Virgin Islands (U.S.)

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  3. F2brewers

    F2brewers Maven (1,432) Mar 12, 2005 Massachusetts
    Society Trader

    This time, responding is mandatory, @GonzoHomebrewer

    You ignored the other bad trader thread...even if you made it right, you never explained what happened.

    If you don't respond here, your ability to trade will be suspended even if you make good.

    If you don't make it right, you're done.
     
  4. JavaNoire

    JavaNoire Savant (1,163) Dec 4, 2010 Iowa

    In most cases a link to the BT thread should be posted to the BT's profile page & remain there to apprise future traders of past issues. JMO.

    Pejorative thread titles could be edited to reflect there was satisfactory resolution since the purpose is to disseminate info rather than to condemn.

    Would I trade with someone named in a bt thread? Quite possibly, depending on how the person responded & how the dispute was resolved, ie a sincere apology was made followed by FAST, appropriate resolution. I would require that s/he ship first.

    Keeping a link on the slackers profile page might remind/encourage them to get it done & done quickly. Out & out thieves might prefer to *trade* elsewhere. That's not ideal but it beats homing em here.

    There have been people with two, even three bad trader threads started on them, who made it right & continue to trade. That's valuable info & worth sharing via links on the profile page. Again, JMO.
     
  5. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
    In Memoriam Pooh-Bah Trader

    Sounds more like a lazy-ass than a bad trader, at least I hope so for OP's sake. Glad to hear he needs to account for himself on this thread. We have been short on excus... err, reasons life got in the way lately.
     
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  6. YvesB

    YvesB Initiate (0) Oct 20, 2015 Belgium
    Trader

    Thinking the same dave, i hope this gets him speeding up.. Something needed to happen
     
  7. Mangbus

    Mangbus Initiate (0) Aug 25, 2014 Florida

    He needs to be on everyone's 'must send first' list although he's already landed on my dnt list.
     
  8. PA-Michigander

    PA-Michigander Grand Pooh-Bah (3,372) Nov 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Per the other traders feedback he should have already been on a send first basis.

    Can't believe no one else has said it but @YvesB ill happily send first with awesome beer for some Cantillon bottles. Hope this works out bud.
     
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  9. JavaNoire

    JavaNoire Savant (1,163) Dec 4, 2010 Iowa

    @YvesB I hope you get your beer. Unfortunately, that will most likely rest on whether gonzohomebrewer is just a lazy slacker or an out & out thief.

    He's been a member for over three yrs, has rated almost 1000 beers & has a solid posting history. I think it would hurt a bit to give that up. However, he's only got 7 trades under his belt, one of which garnered him neutral fb & a recommendation that people require that he ship first. Undoubtedly, he wouldn't mind leaving that behind.

    I'm curious...Did you read his fb prior to setting up the trade? If so, why didn't you require him to ship first?
     
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  10. YvesB

    YvesB Initiate (0) Oct 20, 2015 Belgium
    Trader

    New around here, cant ask anyone to send first a large international trade, can i?
    Maybe not the best trade to start with, but due to expensive shipping, the bigger the better, and there s one beer included that ive been searching for years..
    Still positive he'll come round, but he needs to move.
     
  11. JavaNoire

    JavaNoire Savant (1,163) Dec 4, 2010 Iowa

    @YvesB my bad. I didn't look at your trade history & you're right. A large international trade might be difficult with no fb & a very recent history.

    Is he on FB or untappd? Is there anyone with a phone # so you can call him?

    It's been much too long with no contact. Hell, you should have had your beer weeks ago.

    Consider contacting the other guy who posted a bt thread. He might have insights or suggestions on what is likely to be most effective.
     
  12. YvesB

    YvesB Initiate (0) Oct 20, 2015 Belgium
    Trader

    I texted him today, we'll see what gives. If others want to do as well I can provide his number. Also, He mentionned his workplace.
     
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  13. factory

    factory Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2010 Georgia

    @YvesB let us know what stouts you are out when you and/or the community feel sufficient time has passed. You should not get screwed over on your first trade.
     
  14. YvesB

    YvesB Initiate (0) Oct 20, 2015 Belgium
    Trader

    this is what he should be sending:


    Special Kay (biggest want)
    Kate the great
    Dark Lord '09+'10
    Birth of Tragedy
    '13 bourbon county stout
    '14 bourbon county stout
    '13 bourbon county barleywine
    '14 Bourbon county barleywine
    2010 Black Tuesday
    2011+2012 Southampton RIS
    older viscosity
    4pk Breakfast stout
    Founders Imperial Stout
    Alesmith Speedway
     
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  15. factory

    factory Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2010 Georgia

    I can (and will) definitely help out with some of this if things aren't adequately resolved.

    I'm sure others would help fill in. I can even help arrange a single shipment.
     
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  16. YvesB

    YvesB Initiate (0) Oct 20, 2015 Belgium
    Trader

    since he is not replying to my text, I send an email to his work place (Julio's Liquors).
    If im going down on this one, he's coming with me :angry:
     
  17. hunninghake

    hunninghake Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2005 Colorado

    I've got a 14' BC Barleywine if it's needed. Let me know.

    This bums me out. You have a generous trader that tosses out a porch bomb of Loons to someone and then they get totally disregarded for the efforts and considerations they've extended.

    Let me know if I can be of any further help with @GonzoHomebrewer. Am near Westborough, MA occasionally and can drop into Julio Liquors to see how this guy's doing with his side of the trade :wink: Really though, hope that this person steps up and makes this right...pretty adolescent behavior from someone who I assume to be a grown man.

    Best of luck...
     
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  18. benzalman

    benzalman Initiate (0) Apr 25, 2009 California
    Trader

    I'll put in some legwork locally to see if I can track some info down. I know some of the folks who've traded with him.
     
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  19. treznor

    treznor Pooh-Bah (1,814) Dec 20, 2006 North Carolina
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I've got 2013 BCBS and 2013 BCBBW if needed. The ones at the top of the list are going to be the ones that are really tough though...
     
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  20. factory

    factory Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2010 Georgia

    Yeah I figure quite a few can offer up some of these and others...tough as you stated. But the BA community never ceases to amaze.
     
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