A perfectly constructed beer.

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  1. ryanhooks81

    ryanhooks81 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Georgia

    all green everything
    prima pils
    cbs
    coconut ba mex cake
    born yesterday
    schlenkerla marzen
    evil twin cowboy
     
    #41 ryanhooks81, Dec 20, 2015
  2. fearfactory

    fearfactory Initiate (0) Aug 12, 2012 Massachusetts

    This year's version of SN Oktoberfest was for me, hard to improve upon.
     
    #42 fearfactory, Dec 20, 2015
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  3. barflybastard

    barflybastard Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2012 Pennsylvania

    So you're saying a beer you've never had is perfect?
     
    #43 barflybastard, Dec 20, 2015
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  4. laketang

    laketang Grand Pooh-Bah (3,017) Mar 22, 2015 Arizona
    Pooh-Bah

    as I said earlier, hopslam is my best, but, if I tried a sip of sunshine which I read great things about, it MAY be my future best.cheers!
     
    #44 laketang, Dec 20, 2015
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  5. nodder

    nodder Savant (1,144) Aug 9, 2013 New York

    Weihenstephan anything.
     
    #45 nodder, Dec 20, 2015
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  6. deleted_user_950283

    deleted_user_950283 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2015
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    #46 deleted_user_950283, Dec 20, 2015
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  7. BEERschlitz

    BEERschlitz Initiate (0) Oct 13, 2013 Michigan

    Double Sunshine from Lawson's for me, leaps and bounds above everything else in the style.
     
    #47 BEERschlitz, Dec 20, 2015
  8. JayORear

    JayORear Grand Pooh-Bah (3,058) Feb 22, 2012 California
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    PtE
     
    #48 JayORear, Dec 20, 2015
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  9. BradenMK

    BradenMK Pundit (897) Sep 24, 2012 Alaska

    Peche Mortel. Anyone have any suggestions to "improve" this glorious piece of work, because I sure can't think of any.
     
    #49 BradenMK, Dec 20, 2015
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  10. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2009 California

    One man's garbage is another man's treasure...

    Agreed on Orval though....
     
    #50 RBassSFHOPit2ME, Dec 20, 2015
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  11. TCJ0100

    TCJ0100 Initiate (0) Oct 9, 2014 California

    Old Rasputin, sets the standard for the style.
     
    #51 TCJ0100, Dec 20, 2015
  12. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
    Trader

    I think having a hefeweizen in the top 250 shows how well this beer is made. Not really an exciting style, but damn is it good.
     
    #52 Scott17Taylor, Dec 20, 2015
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  13. LakesideBrewing

    LakesideBrewing Zealot (604) Dec 1, 2013 Massachusetts
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    Westmalle Tripel
    Orval
     
    #53 LakesideBrewing, Dec 20, 2015
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  14. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    i like these
    Parabola
    Abrasive
    BCBS
     
    #54 gatornation, Dec 20, 2015
  15. AWA

    AWA Savant (1,195) Jul 22, 2014 California

    Nelson
    Victory at Sea
    Parabola
    Wookey Jack
     
    #55 AWA, Dec 20, 2015
  16. HoppedChef84

    HoppedChef84 Initiate (0) Mar 13, 2015 Rhode Island

    New Glarus Moonman. Perfect example of a no coast pale ale!
     
    #56 HoppedChef84, Dec 20, 2015
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  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Society Pooh-Bah

    A perfectly constructed beer can be a beer of simplicity or it can be a more complex beer. IMO it comes down to how well the beer is balanced. It can be balance in a more simple way but I personally can find balance in a more complex beer.

    So,

    A more simple beer:

    The first beer that popped into my mind is my homebrewed Kolsch. A relatively simple beer from an ingredients perspective: 100% German Pilsner Malt, German Tettnang hops for bittering and Kolsch yeast strain (Wyeast 2565 for me). The brewing process of this beer is non-simple but not too complex either.

    This beer has a tasty but relatively simple balance of German Pilsner Malt flavors with some subtle but noticeable white wine type flavors.

    A more complex beer:

    I am reminded of a past drinking experience that I posted in a previous thread:

    Freigeist Bierkultur Hoppeditz

    “This beer is a Sticke Alt that was brewed in Koln (Cologne). This is only the second time that I have had an Alt that was brewed in Koln. I asked the bartender about this and he educated me that Freigeist means Free Spirit in German. This beer was OUTSTANDING! In the parlance of Tony (BA boddhitree) this beer was WOW-WOW-WOW. There was so much complexity in this beer. There were some subtle smoke flavors but some dark malt flavors going on simultaneously: toasty, woody, licorice, toffee … plus some spice & a tiny bit of fruitiness. There is so much going on here (in a good way) that I can’t really do justice to this beer in describing it. This beer has more layers than Shrek!”

    While there was a lot going on in Freigeist Bierkultur Hoppeditz every flavor & beer quality was in balance. Nothing dominated and nothing clashed. Simply put: a WONDERFUL beer!

    Cheers!

    @nc41
     
    #57 JackHorzempa, Dec 20, 2015
  18. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    schlenkerla fastenbier

    pilsner urquell

    cherise cassee

    a few others i'm sure
     
    #58 Pahn, Dec 20, 2015
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  19. surfcaster

    surfcaster Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    Ayinger Octoberfest
    Mexican Cake
    PtE
    Nelson

    Would not change one iota and cannot imagine anything to make them better.
     
    #59 surfcaster, Dec 20, 2015
  20. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
    Trader

    I Love KBS too, it's really a great beer, one of the few that I actively seek out. But it can be harsh and astringent too, while being one of my top beers it's certainly not a perfectly constructured beer. I love it, but it could use more barrel, it could be a bit thicker, it could be a bit smoother, the coffee can be a bit bitter. I love it as it is, but it doesn't compare to Bcbsc. Just an example and IMO of course. Bcbcs needs absolutely nothing.
     
    #60 nc41, Dec 20, 2015
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