Bourbon County Coffee 2015 - Gusher?

Or next year's King Henry?!?!?!

 

I haven't read this whole thing, is there some talk about refunds at least? I know I would want my money back. That definitely sucks, but Cheers anyway!

 

Typically non-returnable bottles are just rinsed. The risk of picking up something from them, assuming they've been stored correctly (i.e dry, away from things like malt dust), is extremely low. They don't exactly present a hospitable environment for things that will spoil beer. They're dry and they have no food source. More likely is a dirty filler or organisms brought in from earlier in the process.

 

Just guessing here, but I assume Goose has a bottling machine that has many nozzles so it fills multiple bottles at once? That would certainly explain the randomness of having some bottles with the same time stamp as fine vs infected...

 

That can. Also, if the microbiological loading is low and/or variable, you can have some level of bugs in every bottle. Some may spoil sooner, others may spoil later. It becomes a matter of building up a population of organisms large enough to create sufficient byproducts to be detectable to the drinker. Some may bloom rather quickly and be immediately noticeable. Some may take time. Some may crap out and do nothing.

 

17/ sep 1226 no issues. Bought at binny's south loop on christmas eve

 

Add me to the list. Saw this thread a couple days ago and didn't really think much about it. My curiosity got the best of me and I cracked a bottle tonight that was undrinkable. Cracked another and it was nearly as bad. Bummer but the epitome of a 1st world problem.

 

Maybe FW sent that tweet out to help ease the minds of some of their customers that may just be worried about infection in general. I obviously have no idea what they were thinking (and I'm assuming nobody on here does either), but perhaps with the climate of one of the most sought after BA beers on the market having issues, they want to make sure there is some clarity that they are doing their due diligence (and I'm not implying that GI didn't do theirs).

Back to this thread, I think I'm going to pop one of my bottles open by this weekend, regardless of whether GI gives a response or not.

 

17/SEP/15 1858. Cracked it out of curiosity and it tastes pretty darn good. Roasty, coffee, touch of sweetness, although not very much bourbon heat.

 

Time stamps still going strong on page 10

 

So I guess I'm posting this here because this is the more popular thread of the two...but I have some questions/observations that others have raised that haven't been fully addressed that I think are important.

1. Could it be possible that regular BCBS and variants released this year all have bottles that are/will be infected?
2. If so, does that exclude this iteration of Rare...or not? (I'd like to hope that since this Rare used those old HH barrels and that it was '14 instead of '15 Cook County/BCBS what have you that there will be no infection there.
3. That being said, I haven't heard of any complaints yet of '15 standard BCBS, Regal, Prop or Rare being infected but if anyone has in fact experienced this...PLEASE POST IT HERE!
4. Could a genius mad scientist disgruntled employee have sabotaged '15 BCBS by infecting stuff deliberately? Ok, I'm gonna end it at 4. Feel free to add your own numbers. Cheers.

 

Well for me at least... I can still fall back on Regal, Rare, and Regular... so unless the rest are infected im not that angry.

 

tbh I'm not quite sure why @Highbrow is so agroor anyone else is so upset about it. So users are conflating a date stamp (basically a serial number) with a batch number... where is the harm? I guarantee you GI has batch data and the only way they can trace it back is specifics INCLUDING the time stamp. All data is helpful at this time. Infighting about correct terminology is not.

 

i'm not sure why you're taking time to blast my user name for trying to make sure that the data is understood & viewed correctly? do you work for GI? what is your "guarantee" based upon? i can get behind your belief that this misinformation might be understood & useful to GI staff but why do you guys that want to defend or minimize this, speak as if this group is "GI"? it's not.

besides for fun, & the comrade concept, would you disagree that a big portion of why we are here is to learn & share the best information & ideas possible? if you do agree that's a living concept of this meeting place, then why would you try to make a case of : bad/incorrect information that could be helpful to GI is somehow GOOD INCORRECT information for us?

furthermore, what's wrong with trying to help people not sound ridiculous in case they do contact GI? obviously whoever answers the phone is not going to laugh (while the line is active), but what's wrong with pre-educating *us* so that if we do call or write, we don't sound like we think Goose Island actually bottled 12,000 "batches" of BCBS & variants? is this really a case of : The Truth Hurts? i think we have to simply agree to disagree there.

and for the record i'm not *agroor* (unless that means bemused) nor am i upset. instead i am amazed so many can read a misconception, repeat & further it but all seem to miss or ignore the multiple corrections of said misconception.

 

Sorry it should have said "agro, or why" in place of "agroor". I think you are over reacting in your corrections. I think you are over reacting in your above post as well. I don't think people listen or learn when they are being berated. You aren't reading as "bemused", it's coming off as churlish and condescending. I can see into the future and tell we will probably not see eye to eye on this.

I don't work for GI I'm in public accounting. I used to work at an olive oil bottling plant. Based on my experience, there should be logs on GIs end with data. I highly doubt any customer service reps are hanging up the phone saying "hey Linda, another idiot called it a batch number. You know where this on gets filed... Har har" as she slides it into the trash can.

 

You missed the window, ABI said you needed to contact them by yesterday, and they are offering refunds as well as all expense paid trips to Disneyland.

JK, nothing has been mentioned yet, but there will definitely be info aplenty here and everywhere when it happens

 

The reason is if it is a batch number some folks might only take down that number, thinking it is the only important info needed to record.

Since it isn't a batch number, but a time stamp, folks will understand all the numbers need to be observed and noted when they are made aware.

Okay?

 

Surprised it hasn't been mentioned, but FW's brewmaster is a former Goose brewmaster. Definitely a pot shot and it's hilarious.

 

We are talking about real people though. Actual human beings who poured their efforts into making something as good as it could be, and now they are finding out that it is infected... They probably feel pretty shitty already. Piling on / rubbing it into their faces is just rude. I don't give a crap about the company that owns GI, I am talking about the people who work there.