How does a DIPA get wild popularity?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by BeerKarmaNYC, Jan 7, 2016.

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  1. BeerKarmaNYC

    BeerKarmaNYC Initiate (0) Sep 13, 2015 New York

    I had a chance to try a fresh batch of Double from Upstate Brewing last night which is relatively new in their rotation. It was really f'ing good, not super dank but juicy like all of the New England IPAs and very drinkable. Maybe just a bit light to be considered a true double but that's not the point.

    What sort of buzz or notoriety does it take for a beer like this to get enough attention that people are lining up outside the brewery every time they can it? Do they suffer from not being in a region that has multiple great breweries worth the trek or any other major attractions?
     
  2. Dentist666

    Dentist666 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,017) Dec 21, 2009 Russian Federation
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    I suspect guys wanna get drunk for the lower price, ahaha.
     
  3. Davepoolesque

    Davepoolesque Pooh-Bah (2,686) Aug 25, 2012 Massachusetts
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    I'd say the word of mouth has to build up a bit. A lot of the time this happens when a beer absolutely kills it at a beer event like GABF or EBF/ACBF.
     
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  4. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    Citra or Mosaic hops, regional exclusivity, trading $.
     
  5. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    +1…will throw Galaxy in the mix too
     
  6. jayrutgers

    jayrutgers Zealot (723) Oct 29, 2011 New Jersey

    These days?

    Rarity and making it more like a wine cooler than a beer. Get those tropical flavors bro.
     
  7. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Pooh-Bah (2,681) Jan 14, 2008 Virginia
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    The HYPE TRAIN!
     
  8. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2014 Massachusetts

    It needs to be extremely good and needs word of mouth exposure over time. That's it.
     
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  9. breadwinner

    breadwinner Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2014 California

    Bonus points for using the words "juicy" or "soft" in the description. Double bonus points for using it in the name. See House, Tree - Juice Machine.
     
  10. cmiller4642

    cmiller4642 Maven (1,399) Aug 17, 2013 West Virginia

    Try this one if you can find it. Holy fuck it's good

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  11. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    @BeerKarmaNYC You might find one answer in this forum discussion about a NPR Marketplace story on "Scarcity Marketing". You can follow the links to the NPR story, which focused on Russian River's Pliny the Elder as an example of very successful scarcity marketing, but it's very easy to see how the same concepts could apply to other examples in the beer world (e.g. Heady Topper, Hopslam, BCBS, Alpine Nelson, everything from Hill Farmstead, etc.)

    Edit: It's worth noting that the NPR story documents psychological and physiological effects marketing can have on people's minds influencing our tastes, enjoyment, and purchases.
     
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  12. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    I'll actually go on record saying I kinda like some of those hyped up "ugly" IPA's, but I think some are flying under the radar (Brewmaster Jack being one) and others are praised because of the bandwagon effect.
     
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  13. tillmac62

    tillmac62 Pooh-Bah (2,859) Oct 2, 2013 South Carolina
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    It need merely be raved about here, by us.
     
  14. BeerKarmaNYC

    BeerKarmaNYC Initiate (0) Sep 13, 2015 New York

    I think that's what I'm trying to get at. Obviously exclusivity always helps but there are still some really great beers I've tried that I feel like never get the same trade value or notoriety as others.
     
  15. BeerKarmaNYC

    BeerKarmaNYC Initiate (0) Sep 13, 2015 New York

    Gracias, good read and sifting through the comments on that thread now.
     
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  16. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    Hazy IPAs seem to be all the rage these days. If the beer in the OP is hazy just post a picture of the beer in all its hazy glory. Folks will go bonkers.
     
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  17. MarshallBirdhouse

    MarshallBirdhouse Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2013 Kentucky
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    Ctrl + F and no mention of "Haze" :grimacing:
     
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  18. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    The madness of crowds.
     
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  19. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2014 Massachusetts

    Time is a key feature of that in two ways. One, it takes time to build the reputation. Two, if it was released in an era of less competition (Pliny, Heady, Zombie Dust, Double Sunshine...) then it would stand out more.

    Brewmaster Jack as the example given, is good. It simply doesn't quite compare to the best I've had. Singlecut is starting to make a name as belonging in that next category. Stoneface is awesome too. But the reality is that the market of great beers is now crowded. Standing out is harder for anyone.
     
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  20. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    As much as it pains me, I think it's the shelf effect. Most of the highest regarded beers (on here and elsewhere) aren't normally available on store shelves. Often times people only flock to something when it's hard, expensive, or takes a secret handshake to obtain. Shelf beers can't possibly be good because nobody has bought them yet.
    Often times you'll see a brewery re-create a one-off recipe but increase the supply. They they watch in horror when nobody cares because it's common now.
    None of this matters a ton when you get into huge places like New Belgium, Sierra Nevada, Brooklyn, etc. but hype is a powerful tool for the smaller places.
     
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