Do you consider each Stone Enjoy By a different beer?

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  1. NickyDee21

    NickyDee21 Initiate (0) Dec 23, 2011 Pennsylvania

    When tracking different beers that you have had, do you count each new Enjoy By (insert date) you drink as a different beer you have tried, or simply the same beer, just a more fresh entry?
     
  2. RockAZ

    RockAZ Pundit (983) Jan 6, 2009 Arizona

    According to Stone, they are all the same recipe,... and I have heard they find it quite amusing to read the reviews on forums like this stating otherwise.
     
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  3. pat61

    pat61 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2010 Minnesota

    To me, its the same beer but I like to compare my notes to see how different beers change over time.
     
  4. OldRickSputin

    OldRickSputin Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2014 Illinois

  5. edallolie

    edallolie Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2015 Connecticut

    I dont know about tracking them but I have found them all different. Some have been great, other just ok IMO. If the recipe is the same them maybe it's just subtle differences in the hop batch used etc.
     
  6. Monkeyknife

    Monkeyknife Grand Pooh-Bah (5,873) Jan 8, 2007 Missouri
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    I've rated Enjoy By just once but the beers do vary from batch to batch. All delicious IMO.
     
  7. StoutElk_92

    StoutElk_92 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,045) Oct 30, 2015 Massachusetts
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    Sometimes all beer is different sip to sip, that's why 2 bottles of the same beer may seem different. It's hard for all the ingredients to evenly distribute throughout the whole beer. Sometimes you might get a little more hops, or malts, etc. Everything affects taste as well, including drink temperature, if you're consuming things that might change your palate, etc. I haven't had the regular Enjoy By, let alone multiple times, but I'm speaking for other beers I've tried. When I drink a new beer for the first time, or when I review it now, I like to have a clean palate and serve it not freezing cold but not warm, just sort of cellar/room temp. so I can taste the beer at that state. Also, for personal reviews, some people may have different interpretations of what something taste like, so you sort of have to find a consensus and a general description from multiple accounts to determine a somewhat accurate conclusion. :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  8. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Same beer, different batch.
     
  9. woodchipper

    woodchipper Grand Pooh-Bah (3,735) Oct 25, 2005 Connecticut
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    I've only rated it once, but I feel it does vary. Perfectly understandable with natural ingredients grown (malted) at different times put together in different batches at different times. There is only so much science can do for absolute consistency. As I write this I realize that while I am no BMC lover their consistency is amazing.
    FYI - love Enjoy By as well as the concept behind it.
     
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  10. tillmac62

    tillmac62 Pooh-Bah (2,859) Oct 2, 2013 South Carolina
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    No. If the recipe is constant and production parameters are constant, then it is the same beer.
     
  11. TonyLema1

    TonyLema1 Pooh-Bah (2,890) Nov 19, 2008 South Carolina
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    I don't think my memory or palate is refined enough to compare beers months apart....All I know is that I buy and enjoy all of them
     
  12. cmurphycode

    cmurphycode Initiate (0) Oct 3, 2010 Massachusetts

    I don't know if the beer was supposed to be identical, but it certainly isn't anymore. The unfiltered version (which is the current one) is listed on their website with higher ABV, different hops, and "TBA" IBU.
     
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  13. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    Raw ingredients--especially the grown variety--do change depending on the conditions for their growth.

    That said, I am of the personal opinion that individual palate variance (over time, depending on what else has been consumed that day, depending on mood, etc) is a far larger contributor to perceptive differences in how one batch of Enjoy By might taste different from the next.
     
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  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I find that each release of Enjoy By tastes different. Sometimes it is a minor difference and sometimes is it a marked difference.

    Every Budweiser tastes the same.

    Cheers!
     
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  15. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    If you considered each Enjoy By with a different enjoy by date as a different beer, then you should also consider each DirtWolf, Hoptimum, etc with a different enjoy by date as a different beer.
     
  16. Ipaupaweallpa

    Ipaupaweallpa Savant (1,022) Dec 26, 2014 Alabama
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    It's all the same. Drank every release this year. All. The. Same. However, it is one of those beers that changes alot depending on what u had to eat, or didn't eat right before I have noticed. It's best with a super clean palate. Sometimes if I have pizza or something zesty before it tastes real boozy. I think this is why people talk about this date being better than that date etc etc.
     
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  17. beerjerk666

    beerjerk666 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,155) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    No the date is the only thing that changes. Although as with all craft beers there is a slight variation from time to time.
    But it's still the same to me.
     
  18. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    It's a different beer if and only if the recipe is different.
     
  19. honkey

    honkey Maven (1,350) Aug 28, 2010 Arizona
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    Funnily enough, at Siebel one of our professors had worked for AB for a while and I remember when we were doing styles tastings (yes, we included adjunct lagers in our styles tastings), he made a remark that the batch of Budweiser we were drinking was particularly good. I thought he was full of it and just kidding around, but he could identify what he considered to be better or worse batches consistently. I thought they all tasted the same. In fact, in a blind triangle taste test with Budweiser and Bud Lite, the class was almost an even split three ways on which was the different beer.

    I disagree. Even with the best breweries, there are batches that are particularly good. While Stone may be using the same recipe, there are batches that are better than others, but I will say I have never had an Enjoy By that was bad. The batches that are slightly better than the others are the ones that keep me excited for buying it again. I've seen this before with Lagunitas Pale Ale and even with Bell's Two-Hearted. The results are consistent with a trained 12 person blind taste testing panel. We had a batch of Two-Hearted here once that ranked 8th of 8 in a blind IPA tasting with all 12 people having it in their bottom 2 of the beers. With a batch a months later it was 1st of 8 with the same beers. The batch that finished 8th was determined to have isovaleric acid and was very apparent to most of the panel.
     
  20. Ipaupaweallpa

    Ipaupaweallpa Savant (1,022) Dec 26, 2014 Alabama
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    I can appreciate that, however, some variables are missing... Were the dates on those beers within a 35 day window like enjoy by is? I could see how they would taste different first time being old and second time being new. You could compare an enjoy by that is one week old to one that is a month past it's enjoy by date (with the same batch even) and it would be different.
     
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