How long until Treehouse is replicated?

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  1. kaos

    kaos Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2014 New York

    Other Half is doing similar things in Brooklyn.
     
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  2. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    He'll yeah. Usually it's fun seeing these fads play out. But in this case, with the self-awareness set to 0 and the obnoxiousness set to 11, it's kinda hard to ride along.
     
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  3. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    There is also UC Davis, where Dr. Bamforth does research. He has been working on the science of foam,,as it is more important than most would think. He is referred to as the "Pope of Foam" by some.
     
  4. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Thanks - major miss on that one. I have his book on malt - while technical, it is very readable.

    I also found this, which Draft Magazine calls required reading and graciously provides the link to the full paper. While not strictly hop-focused entirely, it certainly shows how complex the chemistry gets. I haven't plowed through all of this article - it's way over my head and slow slogging!

    http://depa.fquim.unam.mx/amyd/archivero/ARTICULOGRUPO8_25527.pdf
     
  5. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Alpine sold for a stupid amount of money, and Founders has done nothing but succeed greatly and expand production since the days they were the "flavor of the day" I guess is my point.
     
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  6. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Yeah, that will be a slog, but thanks, looks to be worth the effort.
     
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  7. KrajDoesBeer

    KrajDoesBeer Savant (1,228) Aug 2, 2014 Illinois
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    again... I would bet you have not had Tree House...
     
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  8. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Pooh-Bah (2,181) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Couldn't agree more. Waiting 4 to 6 to 10 weeks to drink a volatile/fresh hoppy ale is absurd -- JK is brilliant --but that "10 week" comment is just pure propaganda.
     
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  9. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Pooh-Bah (2,181) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    I'm hoping it's somewhere in PA near @JackHorzempa so he doesn't have to keep drinking 6 week old FWUJ...:stuck_out_tongue:
     
  10. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    Ive never had treehouse but id imagine that situation would be like store brand goods. Its replicated, but never as good as the real thing. The first thing im going to do next chance i get though is brew a clone so i can get an idea of the hype. Lol
     
  11. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Well, if you had used the expression "brainless beer tick BA rare beer bruh idiots" instead of "people" to describe who was moving away in your first post it would have been tons clearer what you meant. The fact is that some "brainless beer tick BA rare beer bruh idiots" may have moved away, but "people" have joined their customer bases in astronomically huge numbers since the "brainless beer tick BA rare beer bruh idiots" put them on the map and started them on the road to success.
     
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  12. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    As is the bullshit he wrote about drinking from the can because the aroma is better, which is so demonstrably bullshit it's laughable. He advises drinking from the can because he was one of the first to put out a tubid mess of a beer with floaties and didn't realize that look would grow to be beautiful to many of us instead of how ugly he assumed all of us would find it.
     
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  13. bleakies

    bleakies Maven (1,355) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    And now you don't hear either brewery spoken of with the same dotty reverential tones fanboys apply to Tree House or Trillium. It's not a matter of quality or success so much as subcultural estimation.

    Both of the breweries I've named have produced some of my favorite beers but I can't imagine their continued success won't be accompanied by a certain cooling of rhetoric in describing them. This isn't an insult to these outstanding breweries at all. It may be an insult to certain fans, though.
     
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  14. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    If your point is the ridiculous hype train moves to different stations to satisfy the impatient fan boy hipster crowd looking to be in on the newest iteration to be served at the party to which they showed up so late, I agree.
     
  15. barroomhero1977

    barroomhero1977 Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 Rhode Island

    No, that beer is still an ugly bastard to be sure. The turbid-ness is fine but the floaties make it a real horror show to look at.
     
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  16. SeanBond

    SeanBond Pooh-Bah (2,904) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    While clearly these new breweries are hot right now (and I'm sure they're making great beer), the way Beer Advocate is doing the rankings has changed significantly in the last...few months, I think? However they do their metrics now have shaken up the Top 250 list quite a bit, so some of that has nothing to do with "beer bruhs" Founders or Tree House; some of it is just the newer way the data is parsed.
     
  17. bulletrain76

    bulletrain76 Maven (1,311) Nov 6, 2007 California

    Honestly, thats the majority of cans coming from very small breweries. Canning at low TPO is very difficult because of how large the opening of a can is. O2 standards aren't very good for cans in most cases. The can freshness hype is mostly a myth in my experience, mostly due to the oxygen issue IMO.
     
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  18. bleakies

    bleakies Maven (1,355) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    Indeed!
     
  19. DeweyCheatem-n-Howe

    DeweyCheatem-n-Howe Initiate (0) May 23, 2015 Massachusetts

    From what little I have had, Other Half and Tired Hands both pull off Tree House levels of deliciousness. Trillium does, too, and their expanded Canton brewery means they're actually hitting LBS shelves around here... the non-hoppy stuff they put out is amazing, just like Tree House.

    It's a good time to be a beer drinker.
     
  20. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    Treehouse sells there beers between 3.75 and 4.25 per can. So from the brewery its 22.50 - 25.50 a six pack. Imagine a Distro was involved how much it would be for a 6 pack of this beer.
     
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