Bud down 31%, Sam Adams up 46%

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  1. msscott1973

    msscott1973 Pooh-Bah (1,739) Dec 28, 2013 North Carolina
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    I actually don't know anyone who drinks regular Bud. All of my friends who drink mainstream beer go for the light varieties.
     
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  2. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    Such a horrible apples to oranges graph showing Bud, Bud Light and Fat Tire (individual beers), compared to Sam Adams and Sierra Nevada (companies). Need to all be companies or all need to be flagship beers, not a mix. Bogus graph.
     
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  3. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Ok, splashy headline, but this is over a 6 year timeframe.

    And over that same time period, AB also introduced countless other brands that probably cannibalized their own sales from the 2 core brands. Bud Light Golden Wheat, Lime, Platinum, Lime-a-ritas, etc.
     
  4. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Hard to tell if Sierra Nevada is the whole company or their Pale Ale.

    Consdiering they don't mention the other brands in the graph in the "article" - if you can call 2 paragraphs that.
     
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  5. jcos

    jcos Pundit (802) Nov 23, 2009 Maryland

    I'd rather have Budweiser or Original Coors than their light versions...

    Yeah this guy who got an undergrad degree in math with a focus on statistics thinks that is just bad math and data representation.
     
  6. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Did not read the article but over the last 5 years Bud stock has outperformed SAM by over 40% and it pays a nice dividend vs no dividend from SAM.

    Your cannibal theory plays well here with out looking deeper into it.


    Enjoy




    Enjoy
     
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  7. Smokingtony

    Smokingtony Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2014 Texas

    I'm sure this graphic will be part of New Belgium's (alleged) sales pitch.
     
  8. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    Can anyone think of a reason that 2008 was the year they started from? Why 8 years?
     
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  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    This article reminds me of an old quote:"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

    Cheers!
     
  10. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Oh come on man this is journalism, where you don't let some silly math and data get in the way of a good story! :grinning: :wink:
     
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  11. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    It was the year InBev bought AB and also the year of AB's peak year for their US barrelage (107 million bbl), but I sorta doubt either of those was the reason.:wink:

    But AB is still down over 10 million barrels of yearly sales in the US in that period (2014 = 96 million bbl).

    Of course, Bud Light alone still outsells not just Sierra Nevada, Boston Beer and "Fat Tire" :rolling_eyes: but all the rest of the other beers from the 4,000 other US "craft" breweries combined.
     
  12. TheBungyo

    TheBungyo Pooh-Bah (2,037) Dec 1, 2004 Washington
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    People just don't appreciate beer brewed the hard way anymore.
     
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  13. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Yeah, they could have presented it in a less manipulative way, and still made the same "point".

    I'm no lover of AB InBev, but that graph was just crappy data with no explanation.
     
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  14. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    a 250 word "article" is the new version of journalism....
     
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  15. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Hmmm, let me see, ABInBev now owns less that 1/4 of 1% of the breweries that make flavorful beers and we're supposed to be panicing??
     
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  16. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Exactly. That was not really even an opinion looking for an audience. Pure fishing, and maybe pitched to a group. Back in the day, I think I would have received a less than great grade for that piece!
     
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  17. dirtdirtdirtdirt

    dirtdirtdirtdirt Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2015 New York

    Glad to see that readers here, presumably more in support of Sierra Nevada than of Bud, are not falling for this statistical b.s.
     
  18. Loops

    Loops Devotee (333) Feb 13, 2014 Missouri

    Spot on, Bud is growing everywhere except the United States their sales are up overall not to mention their financials which absolutely kill it.
     
  19. glass_house

    glass_house Maven (1,325) Jan 10, 2014 Ohio

    My favorite is: "The numbers will confess to anything, if you torture them enough."
     
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