Rating beers at festivals

Talk Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by eb1610, Feb 7, 2016.

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  1. eb1610

    eb1610 Savant (1,227) Jan 3, 2014 Massachusetts
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    It may just be me but does it bother anyone else when people rate a beer based off a tiny pour at EBF or any festival? There is no way someone can properly rate a beer with such a small taste and after having so many pours
     
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  2. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    It doesn't bother me. I mostly just rate to keep track of what I like and if someone else has the same mentality rating small pours makes sense. As long as they don't write a full review it shouldn't affect the concensus rankings much.
     
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  3. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Why would it bother me? This is another reason I stopped going to fests, I want a decent pour to enjoy not an oz or two. Rate how you want. I like to taste for my self, even low rated beers. I like some low rated and hate some high rated.

    Enjoy
     
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  4. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    At festivals...? this is what a lot of tickers do regularly all the time. Sampler at a brewpub - ticked. Free sample before ordering a (different) pint - ticked. Sip of wife's beer that you didn't order - ticked.

    This is now the norm. Get used to it.
     
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  5. raynmoon

    raynmoon Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado

    I force my girlfriend to do this.

    "is this one of those ones you've really wanted to try?"

    "yeah, have a sip so you can knock it off the list."

    *sips* "blehhh, oh gosh"
     
  6. drinkin-beeers

    drinkin-beeers Initiate (0) Jan 29, 2014 Montana

    I think this site could use a tick option rather then having to give each beer a rating. I only rate so I can keep track of the beers I have tried.
     
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  7. threedaggers

    threedaggers Maven (1,448) Dec 2, 2013 Kentucky
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    Most beer fests let you get multiple pours of something, if you so desire. I done understand why people get upset about people rating small pours.
     
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  8. ECCS

    ECCS Pundit (755) Oct 28, 2015 Illinois

    OP- what would you consider to be the minimum number of ounces to properly rate a beer?

    Just curious
     
  9. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Don't let it bother you too much.

    The overall instructions for reviewing beers on this site have for years specifically asked that this kind of ticking not be done. That long standing request, combined with the fact that people still do it, seems from what I've read to be at least part of the reasons "Hads" don't count or count very little towards the numerical score unless someone also does a review when ticking.
     
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  10. warrendietrich2001

    warrendietrich2001 Pooh-Bah (1,692) Feb 13, 2013 Nevada
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    Guilty as charged. Love to keep track of what I drank. Feel bad that I gave to rate but would rather use one app all the time than use two. If push cane to shove I would go to untapped merely because I can check a beer in. However I prefer BA and thus I tick and perhaps skew a rating. However if you check my rating to BA overall rating I was pretty close on most beers sampled
     
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  11. 57md

    57md Grand Pooh-Bah (3,033) Aug 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Here's the thing, if a two ounce pour is all that one may ever get of a rare beer, then the rating is legit.

    By contrast, if someone rated SNPA or Boston Lager based upon a two ounce pour, I call "bullshit."
     
  12. Newport_beerguy

    Newport_beerguy Pooh-Bah (1,860) Feb 24, 2011 Rhode Island
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    I've done ratings based off of small pours at "rarez" festivals, and sharing my wife's beer - she typically goes for imperial/bourbon stouts and I go for IPAs from the fridge or out at a bar. My rule of thumb is if I am off a substantial amount from the mean, I will refrain from doing a "tick" rating.
     
  13. algebeeric_topology

    algebeeric_topology Pooh-Bah (2,052) Dec 30, 2014 Florida
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    Smell the bottle? Ticked.
     
  14. hotsudge

    hotsudge Initiate (0) May 3, 2010 Canada (ON)

    Is the size of the pour what this question was about? I didn't read it that way.

    EBF was a fine event. A few recommendations to make it better, but overall, good selections and well executed.
     
  15. Burt

    Burt Maven (1,450) Nov 27, 2005 Rhode Island

    Why even bother going to a beer festival. You only get a couple of ounces to try. By all means it is not enough to judge whether or not the beer is any good, right?
     
  16. ONovoMexicano

    ONovoMexicano Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2012 New Mexico

    I don't follow your logic here.
     
  17. JMiller68

    JMiller68 Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2016 Massachusetts

    I have been professionally tasting and rating [as a purchasing manager for medium sized distributors] wine and beer for over 20 years. You cannot possibly review ANY beverage accurately from a 2 ounce plastic cup. That said, the people "reviewing" these beers are not in a position that results in a 5000 case commitment. I don't think the "tick it off the list" style of review is all that bad. After all, you HAVE had it. Whether your review means much matters not. It is all about the BA points, right :slight_smile: IMHO, I seriously doubt the claims of 150+ samples, etc. I have notes from many years of power tasting, and these claims seem to be bragging more than actual fact. And I taste very fast when analyzing beverages...
     
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  18. JMiller68

    JMiller68 Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2016 Massachusetts

    I think the logic is that you can easily review common beers properly, full pour, proper glass etc...
     
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  19. JMiller68

    JMiller68 Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2016 Massachusetts

    Yes. Meaning that an accurate and fair review does not come from a tiny pour in a plastic cup. Plastic has a very distinct aroma btw...
     
  20. JMiller68

    JMiller68 Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2016 Massachusetts

    The plastic cup is a big problem, even more than the pour. Plastic has a very big aroma for any person with a discerning palate. But I would humbly suggest at least two mouthfuls. Most professional tasters taste twice [not much more as taste acuity then fades]. So 4 ounces? Perhaps five. Also consider the type of glass used will affect the volume needed. Also, also remember that the head of a beer releases very complex notes. Ever seen the head of a two ounce pour :slight_smile:
     
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