Fresh IPAs getting harder to find

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  1. Frankinstiener

    Frankinstiener Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2009 Illinois

    Iv'e been drinking IPAs for about 8 years now. Like everyone here I'm very keen on drinking them fresh but I have been finding it more and more difficult to find fresh IPAs. Over time I realized that with IPAs freshness is my main concern, more than brand or actual beer. Overtime I noticed that the IPAs that I didn't really like much after trying them for the first time was usually because of freshness. Most IPAs brewed within 1 month of drinking taste great, while they are all average at best when they are 3 months old and are completely useless to me beyond that.

    I live in the Chicago suburbs and since I have been drinking IPAs some of the breweries that came into the market were Bells, Surly, Deschuets, Smuttynose, Ballast Point etc. When a new brewery comes into the market for the first time their beers are insanely fresh because everyone is buying them to try them for the first time as they come in. After they have been in the market for a while, and if the brewery can brew enough to satisfy demand their IPAs just sit on the shelf and are never fresh. I check dates constantly. I havn't been able to find fresh Two Hearted in about 6 months. Every beer store in the area has old ass Sculpin sitting on the shelves.

    I think there is a very fine line between a brewery being able to satisfy demand and their IPAs getting old as hell. The IPAs I usually find fresh are the local ones who have trouble satisfying demand like FFF and Pipeworks. Then with some of the big breweries like SN and Lagunitas we will get a batch that is very fresh at first but it seems like that same batch will just linger around the entire area for 3-4 months. Currently every beer store in the area has very fresh Sucks and SN Tropical IPA but it also has old ass batches of every other Lagunitas IPA and Celebration Ale. Torpedo is no longer popular enough for me to find a fresh one ever. Its getting sort of frustrating. I notice the same thing with the local breweries that are better at satisfying demand (Two Brothers, Revolution, Half Acre)
    Seems like if I go to a beer store that has around 20 IPAs about 3-4 will have been brewed within the past month. Maybe 7-8 will be within that 1-3 month range and around half of them will be 4+months old.

    Went on a ski trip to Colorado last week..... one of the best states for craft beer. Couldn't find a fresh Colorado IPA at the liquor store period. Had some great ones on tap though. If it keeps going this way I will be more likely to just belly up to the bar.
     
  2. Cobrito

    Cobrito Initiate (0) Oct 1, 2012 Georgia

    As a fellow IPA drinker I feel your pain and you've pinpointed a serious problem. Have the same experience here in Atlanta. Only about 5-10% of the IPAs on the shelves have a bottling date more recent than two months ago.
     
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  3. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    IPA's are a hugely saturated market. Seasonal slowdown. etc.
     
  4. jkinzey

    jkinzey Initiate (0) Aug 25, 2014 Florida

    Didn't you get the memo. The only way to drink IPA's now is to go to the brewery and have it from a tube strait from the bright tank. As soon as the beer touches a keg, bottle, or can it's too old for me.
     
  5. ShaneP

    ShaneP Zealot (504) Jan 26, 2013 Indiana
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    Beer dates are always going to be an issue the longer the supply chain & in a lot of cases the larger the brewery. Besides checking dates at a store this is reason #1 to try and purchase beer at the source at a local brewery where you should always get the freshest beer. At least in the Chicago area there are quite a few options for local breweries.
     
  6. pagriley

    pagriley Pooh-Bah (2,382) Oct 27, 2014 Illinois
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    Don't know where you shop, but I just bought a 4-pack of pipeworks lizard king that was 3 weeks old at whole foods... the Ninja vs Unicorn was only 2 weeks old. I often get half acre and revolution cans with less than a week on them too.

    I just flip the cans / bottles looking for dates and buy what is fresh - there is almost always something that just got brewed, and I stop shopping at stores that have old stock.
     
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  7. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    I've noticed that the big name brewers like Stone and Sierra Nevada have good sales in my area so i can usually find those fresh. I wish i can find something like Pinner fresh but whenever i grab IPAs i take anything that is at least not out of date. I did end up with 6 months past Stone Go To amd it was still very tasty. I would guess it depends on your area. I live in an area that has very minimal people but during the summer, the local island is PACKED to the point where locals even have a hard time but those months are the best for beer for me because the most popular beers are the general bud lime, coronas and IPAs.

    I dont think a brewery would be able to tell if theyd sell in an area or not right away and it would be sad for the lesser majority of craft drinkers if they pulled their product all together. So i see it as ill take whatever i can get. Id love to constantly drink 60 minute ipa but i just wont if its sat there all year.
     
  8. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    All regional and widely distributed brewers should just stop with standard year-round IPAs and just go to seasonal release. Have 4 of your best IPA variants and do 4 releases a year. Just my opinion.

    Also on some of the OP's comments, I've found that new beer distributed in MD for first time, comes in old and not fresh. As if the distributor was handed back the leftovers from others states stores. Just my observations when Ballast Point, Sweetwater, Terrapin, Bells, Ithica etc started distributing in MD last few years the first batches I got seemed to be old).
     
  9. Nohedidnt81

    Nohedidnt81 Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 Illinois

    I think he mentioned some of the local ones you just mentioned are the only ones he can find fresh. I think the issue is finding fresh IPA from other states besides IL/IN in the Chicago area.
     
  10. Thecalmdrinker

    Thecalmdrinker Zealot (659) Jun 27, 2015 Montana

    I've tasted IPA's that were 3+ months old and still tasted very good! Maybe I'm just not that picky. :stuck_out_tongue:

    Anyway, Stone beers are usually the beers that I find older than 4 months. I usually find Lagunitas beers (favorite brewery) very fresh, which I'm happy about. :slight_smile:
     
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  11. MidasMulligan

    MidasMulligan Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2015 Pennsylvania

    I just found a distributor that sells Sixpoint Resin with very fresh dates.Nobody else seems to notice this treasure so I stock up on it,in case of a snowstorm or extreme thirstiness.I am blessed.
     
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  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    And you should choose between those 3-4 beers.

    The IPAs that I drink the most of are my homebrewed IPAs; homebrewing guarantees freshness. When I am in the market to purchase commercial IPAs I have a list of preferred beers and I buy the one that is the freshest (and less than 2 months old or so).

    As others have posted buying beer directly from the brewery (or brewpub) is also a good option; buy a growler from them. There is no need to suck down the beer directly from a tank inside the brewery. :wink:

    Cheers!
     
  13. WeymouthMike

    WeymouthMike Savant (1,097) Jun 22, 2004 Massachusetts

    I feel that more breweries are stamping dates that are easily readable without a secret decoder ring. The only old beers I've seen have been at larger stores likes Wegmans and whole foods, which is probably the distributor trying to push off older product
     
  14. pagriley

    pagriley Pooh-Bah (2,382) Oct 27, 2014 Illinois
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    Ah yes he did. Thanks.

    I guess ipas are always hard with a longer distribution chain. If I can find local great ipas I am pretty happy. I don't need 50 choices just 3 or 4 really good ones
     
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  15. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    Oh wow. Another IPA freshness thread.
     
  16. honkey

    honkey Maven (1,350) Aug 28, 2010 Arizona
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    In an effort to maintain freshness at my brewery, I brew smaller batches than our other beers, but I do so with greater frequency. Not to be "that guy", but I do wish more brewers would do the same thing. That said, I find that IPA's from larger craft breweries do seem to retain freshness better than mine and other smaller breweries do. I think this is mostly due to less oxidation from better bottlers and canners.
     
  17. TCJ0100

    TCJ0100 Initiate (0) Oct 9, 2014 California

    Sierra Nevada's hoppy offerings hold up very well IMO. Three month old Torpedo or SNPA is usually pretty indistinguishable from fresh. I do agree with the OP though there are way too many IPA's that end up just sitting. I usually have like six or seven beers I will check and then pick the freshest out of them, but sometimes I just want some fresh Lagunitas Maximus or Fresh Squeezed and every six pack is four months old.
     
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  18. BeerMeInStl

    BeerMeInStl Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2013 Missouri

    Most of the out of state IPAs that I find here are old. I was looking to pick up some Union Jack the other day and the ones on the shelf were from August '15. Yea, no thanks. The Odell IPA was 4 months old and I couldn't read the bottle date on the Sucks so I passed that up also. These are all 3 IPAs that I love but basically won't buy anymore because they're always at least 3 months old when they get here.

    Thankfully 4 Hands makes my favorite IPA, Resurrected (name change coming), and it's always fresh.
     
  19. Kanger

    Kanger Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2013 New York

    Thankfully I live near lots of great breweries pumping out fresh IPA all the time.

    My complaint is trying to get fresh IPAs from Japanese breweries. Not that easy.
     
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  20. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Not really having this problem since I buy most of my IPAs a case at a time and they are either seasonals or they have been ordered through a beer retailer who makes sure I only get fresh beer. If he can't get it fresh he'll let me know and I go for another IPA.
     
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