Tip amount when buying bottles?

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  1. moonbrews

    moonbrews Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2010 Virginia

    It's not always clear what an employee's wage structure is, making that rule problematic. In general, tipping is an antiquated excuse for employers to underpay their employees. I'm paying the employer for their product or service. The employer needs to pay their employees for their work. Tipping only benefits the employer, lowering employees' wages and increasing customers' costs, and we need to eliminate the practice.
     
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  2. Breaking_Beard

    Breaking_Beard Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2014 Michigan

    I do not mean you any disrespect, but it is pretty obvious you have never worked for tips. Pretty much everyone in a restaurant or bar works on tips unless they are in the kitchen, or the manager/owner.

    Tipping does not only benefit the employer. You can pay the employee's wage through your tips, or you can pay it through much higher prices on the menu. The difference is that with tips, you can choose to leave a small one if you receive bad service. If you think it would be cheaper to pay higher prices in exchange for tipping, I would respectfully disagree.
     
  3. MS22

    MS22 Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2009 Pennsylvania

    The only places I frequent (RD, TH, Etc) all use a 4Square type iPad which bring up the auto-tip screen. Having worked many years in the service industry through college and grad school I leave whatever the largest selection is, usually 20%. I can think of many worse things to be and be known as than a notoriously good tipper.

    Always nice to hear a "Big Tippah!!" As well.
     
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  4. Brolo75

    Brolo75 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,134) Aug 10, 2013 California
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    I've never tipped when buying bottles from a brewery.
     
  5. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    From a bottle shop? I hope this is a joke.

    Enjoy
     
  6. larryi86

    larryi86 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,118) Apr 4, 2010 Delaware
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    I usually tip $1.50-2 for each growler filled depending on how busy the bar is since it takes up the bartender's time, but getting bottles to go from the bar I tend to just tip $1 since it doesn't take much time.
     
  7. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Pooh-Bah (2,239) Mar 17, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I'd only tip if the person carried them out to my car or something.

    Are bartenders in taprooms that just do fills/samples even living off of tips? If they get a regular wage I don't know why I'd tip them. Sometimes that is a little unclear to me.
     
  8. floridadrift

    floridadrift Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2014 Florida

    If I go to CCB and buy bottles only, without getting any thing on draft, I usually drop $40-120 on bottles/crowlers/growlers. I tip $5-10, depending on what I'm feeling.
     
  9. imbrue001

    imbrue001 Zealot (673) Aug 6, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Do I tip when im buying something? Uh no.
    Not unless shes turbo hot or something.
     
  10. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Common, but not universal in the US (see lavender states on linked map), according to the US Dept. of Labor, which also notes that the Federal Tipped Minimum Wage is only $2.13, with many states (in green) having higher minimums.
     
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  11. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    At DeCicco's Gourmet markets you can grab bottles and cans from the racks, go to the on premise pub, and pay for it all together. I tip for growlers and pours, but not the bottles I buy there.
     
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  12. jimmyfishkin

    jimmyfishkin Initiate (0) Nov 17, 2008 Wisconsin

    To hand me a bag? No.
     
  13. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    To be brutally frank the pay structure of the staff is no business of a customer . I'm used to the published beer prices being exactly what I pay.
    To digress onto on sales, the same reasoning applies. I'm used to measured volumes, no "short pours" or getting foam rather than liquid.
    That means of course that the beer is more expensive than its equivalent in a store but in a pub a) the beer should be better than bottled or canned and b) you don't just get the beer, you get a very pleasant drinking environment. Staff are adequately paid without grubbing for tips and it's all built into the price.
    Apologies for being perhaps off topic but it all goes together to me.
     
  14. moonbrews

    moonbrews Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2010 Virginia

    You're right, I haven't ever worked for tips. I also don't mean any disrespect, but ask yourself what sets the food and beverage industry apart from other industries. I can get crappy service from a mechanic or plumber or cashier or any employee I interact with. That doesn't change what I'm paying them (barring severe circumstances). Why do bartenders and waiters deserve to be subjected to the whims of customers, unlike other employees?
     
  15. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2014 Massachusetts

    Other brewers do as well. Yet I have never seen any retail store that has a tip amount. I think we all need to realize that the way beer is sold in different states can be rather varied. For my region, my assumption was logical. There is no other instance where a tip amount can really apply.
     
  16. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado



    I only replied because you made a blanket statement that basically seemed to cover all breweries, not just those in your region. Now that you've clarified your parameters, your logic is at least acceptable, although your sample size is small. And you are correct, different sales procedures for different states.
     
  17. Twism86

    Twism86 Initiate (0) Nov 3, 2015 New Jersey

    Im glad you said that as that is my standard at the bar. $1 per beer/drink. If I got thrown a free drink, I will add the price of that drink to the tip.
     
  18. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Then it isn't a free drink :slight_smile:
     
  19. Breaking_Beard

    Breaking_Beard Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2014 Michigan

    That is a good question. The main difference is that when you go to a plumber or mechanic, it is out of necessity. You are not having your car or plumbing fixed because you want to. You have a need for those items to be fixed/maintained and you have no choice unless you can do it yourself.

    With a bar or restaurant, you are there because you are choosing to spend your money on something you do not actually need. I think most people would rather see lower menu prices and have to tip, than have much higher prices. It is a psychological thing, just like how retailers set a price at 19.99 instead of 20.00.
     
  20. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Pooh-Bah (2,181) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Usually a couple of bucks on a $100 bottle or case bill my favorite NE breweries. The service is so quick usually two bucks just seems right.
     
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