Starting my cellar

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by Z_ro, Feb 23, 2016.

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  1. Z_ro

    Z_ro Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2015 Michigan

    I recently decided I should start cellaring some beers. Even if only for a few months. Here's what I have so far, what do you guys think? (Keep in mind I am very new to this)

    Arcadia Ales Barrel Aged Shipwreck Porter 2015, 2016x2
    Ballast Pointe Victory at Sea 2016x2
    Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg Samichlaus Bier 2010x4
    Founder's Breakfast Stout 2015x4
    Founder's Imperial Stout 2016x2
    Kuhnhenn Barrel Aged 4D 2015
    Kuhnhenn Bourbon Barrel Barley Wine 2015
    Kuhnhenn Dark Heathen Triple Bock Lager 2015
    Odd Side Ales Hazel's Nuts 2016x2
    Perrin Brewery Lil' Griz 2016x2
    Prairie Artisan Ales BOMB! 2016
    Saugatuck Brewing Co. Blueberry Maple Stout 2016x2
    Stone Brewing Co. Imperial Russian Stout 2014x2, 2015x2
    Weyerbacher Brewing Co. Sunday Morning Stout 2016x2
     
  2. SovietBillCosby

    SovietBillCosby Devotee (360) Dec 6, 2013 New Jersey

    Don't age these:
    I haven't had the Shipwreck Porter, but based off of Carton's version I don't see what you would get from aging them.

    Samichlaus is a great choice without a doubt.
    Kuhnhenn is another that I don't have experience with but those are styles that definitely age.
    Stone's IRS ages so well and looks like you'll have fun once you can make a vertical.
    SMS has only been out for a year, but so far a year does great things to that beer.
     
  3. boilermakerbrew

    boilermakerbrew Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2010 Indiana

    More or less, all of those beer are cellar-able. The ones mentioned above as not to age are better when consumed fresh, but won't see terrible decline for a year or so.
     
  4. CoreyC

    CoreyC Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2015 Wisconsin

    From what I understand the Samichlaus could go for decades (I'm going to age one I have until my grandson, will will be born this summer, turns 21). The Founders IS and the Stone IRS get a lot of love for aging and I have both in my cellar. I'm unfamiliar with the others.
     
  5. Z_ro

    Z_ro Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2015 Michigan

    Thanks for the responses. Some are just down there so when summer comes I can still run down there and grab an out of season breakfast stout or whatever. I'm definitely looking forward to a Stone vertical...I randomly found two 2014 bottles the other day so that was just a bonus year.
     
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  6. pbgnar

    pbgnar Devotee (365) Dec 8, 2015 Illinois

    I had a 2014 v@s on tap the other day and was disappointed. Don't get me wrong, it was good but had lost the balance it has when its fresh. In general, I like to drink stouts with added flavors fresh unless those added flavors are too strong. I have read a lot of people saying the spice in bomb! is overpowering and a little time in the cellar makes that better.

    I also opened a couple Stone RIS 2014 bottles recently and those are amazing. I haven't had one fresh in some time so I can't say for sure whether aged is better than fresh but the flavors it gains in the cellar is worth it.
     
  7. gwguest

    gwguest Zealot (643) Jan 31, 2006 Kansas

    If you're new to this, my main tip is to be sure and understand how the beers you're choosing to cellar taste when fresh. I don't fully understand folks who cellar without knowing the fresh baseline flavors.

    Keep in mind that most beers will not be all they are cracked up to be after a few years; cellaring coveted whales can often lead to disappointment and a shell of, what was, a great beer. Speaking from experience. :slight_smile:
     
  8. ljdrinksbeer

    ljdrinksbeer Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2010 North Carolina

    I second this. Patrick Dawson's book Vintage Beer was really helpful to me and recommended by many on this site.
     
  9. CoreyC

    CoreyC Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2015 Wisconsin

    I echo getting the Vintage Beer book by Dawson. It's very informative and really fun to read. I refer to it quite a bit (and it only cost $2.98! on Amazon).
     
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  10. phildow

    phildow Crusader (407) Jan 6, 2013 Michigan

    I third the Vintage Beer book...

    I'd personally age (since they're styles I like):
    Founder's Imperial Stout 2016x2
    Kuhnhenn Barrel Aged 4D 2015
    Kuhnhenn Bourbon Barrel Barley Wine 2015
    Stone Brewing Co. Imperial Russian Stout 2014x2, 2015x2

    I find that the Kuhnhenn beers you have there are the most similar in style to a Thomas Hardy's ale, and that beer is supposed to hold up forever...well, you get the idea. I think any type of imperial stout that has the "burnt" flavor will lose that as it ages - I've noticed in other beers (Bell's Jupiter) it has turned into toffee/sweet flavor after about a year.

    But I'm also pretty sure that Samichlaus was listed in Vintage Beer, so it's probably a safe bet.
     
  11. HopSavant

    HopSavant Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2014 Tennessee

    As a fellow Michigander, take this advice: chuck a 6-pack (or more) of Bells Expedition Stout in there. Do this annually.

    The Kuhnhenn stuff is great to cellar.

    I enjoy Bomb! much better fresh than aged, although an aged one is still pretty good.
     
  12. deadsincebirth

    deadsincebirth Initiate (0) Jul 24, 2014 Illinois

    Put cases of Expedition Stout in that cellar brother! IMO it is THE American made beer to age.
     
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  13. KMitch

    KMitch Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Alabama

    Dogfish Head's beers make for great cellar dwellers, especially their higher ABV ones like 120 Minute, World Wide Stout and even Palo Santo Morron. I had a 2009 Fort recently and 6 years did wonders for that one. I echo the Expedition stout recommendation and would also recommend Bigfoot and Narwhal by Sierra Nevada. They are relatively inexpensive, easy to find and age very well.
     
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  14. buckeye1275

    buckeye1275 Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2013 Delaware

    Old Stock and Old Raspy from North Coast are great ones for cellars, too. Inexpensive and easily found in 4-packs.
     
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  15. deadsincebirth

    deadsincebirth Initiate (0) Jul 24, 2014 Illinois

    Basically the Russian Imperial Stout, Barleywine (American or English), Old Ale, Gueuze, lambic, etc. are all wonderful choices. This is a wonderful site for all the great cellarable choices in each collective style. I'm well on my way to getting a 10 year vertical of Expedition Stout going and I think that may be the greatest tasting I could be a part of. I also echo Old Raspy, Founders Imperial, Stone IRS and Great Divide Yeti (the closet flavor profile next to Expy). Have fun and take notes! Cheers, Jake.
     
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  16. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    Also third coast.
     
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