King Henry barrels

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by Kwaz, Aug 28, 2012.

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  1. Kwaz

    Kwaz Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2012 Illinois

    I have seen this description a handful of places, most notably on beermenus and RB (emphasis mine):

    Barrel Aged Barleywine. 11% ABV, 60 IBUs. Loosely based off our 2000th brew at our production facility,we revived this hybrid American / English Barley Wine for a special treat. Coming out of the tanks we aged it in barrels previously used for Bourbon County Rare Stout (Pappy Van Winkel 23 Year) to add another layer of complexity.

    Note: The original release of this beer (2010) was done in regular bourbon barrels. The 2011 and bottle release saw the use of the barrels formerly used for Bourbon County Rare. We are not seperating these as I do not believe the bottles will clarify this. The original release also saw an 11% ABV, with the bottling seeing closer to 13.4%"

    Seems pretty noteworthy, no? Anybody know how many bottles came from each type of barrel?
     
  2. drgarage

    drgarage Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2008 California

    The initial release was draft only. The bottle release was Rare barrels. No significance that I can see to this.
     
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  3. FlssmrBrewAlum

    FlssmrBrewAlum Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2009 Illinois

    2010 wasn't bottled. It was only kegged. Small yield. Special events and festivals largely. More of a test batch.
     
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  4. MaxSpang

    MaxSpang Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2011 Ohio
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    More importantly, how many New KHUs is the original King Henry worth?
     
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  5. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2010 Texas

    It was just regular barrels, so it should be low.
     
  6. MaxSpang

    MaxSpang Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2011 Ohio
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    So, like, 1 OKHU = .334 NKHU?
     
  7. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2010 Texas

    I was thinking the other way around, but just thinking about it seems like a waste of my time.:confused:
     
  8. wagenvolks

    wagenvolks Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2005 Texas

    See, to me the most interesting question is this:

    What's going in the used Rare/King Henry barrels next? I vote for unicorn tears.
     
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  9. MaxSpang

    MaxSpang Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2011 Ohio
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    Didn't they sell all their pappy barrels last year?
     
  10. drgarage

    drgarage Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2008 California

    Didn't a cider or a mead already go into them from another brewery? Or was that regular BCBS?
     
  11. TyPhD

    TyPhD Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2012 Wisconsin

    Dark Dark Goose from B. Nektar used regular BCBS barrels
     
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  12. Vav

    Vav Savant (1,049) Jul 27, 2008 Illinois

    I have the only Rare barrel not filled with King Henry here at the store. It smells delicious, and that's after multiple rinses.
     
  13. wagenvolks

    wagenvolks Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2005 Texas

    And what, may I ask, are you planning to put in it?
     
  14. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina

    unicorn tears, white whale extract, and actual zombie dust.
     
  15. yeahnatenelson

    yeahnatenelson Pooh-Bah (1,952) Feb 8, 2010 Illinois
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    First off: yes, there was an initial run of a BA barleywine called King Henry (in the regular Heaven Hill barrels, not previously used for BCBS) served at FOBAB 2010. No bottles whatsoever, not even a blend with the PvW 23. Let's stop that rumor here before the goofy ISO posts start...

    King Henry was probably the last run in Goose for most of those Pappy barrels. Perhaps some of them went to the sour program or resold to a brewery like Jolly Pumpkin, but the odds of them being used a third time to make a barrel-aged RIS/barleywine/strong ale at GI are pretty slim. For instance, regular BCBS is all first (beer) use barrels - some may be used again in the sour program, but not for more BCBS.

    If you're talking about the public sale, those were the HH barrels.
     
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  16. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

    His nose, many times over.
     
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  17. wagenvolks

    wagenvolks Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2005 Texas

    Has this been confirmed/suggested by GI themselves, or is it just SOP for barrel-aging programs?
     
  18. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

    So they never aged a barleywine in the 07 PVW BCBS barrels?
     
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  19. drgarage

    drgarage Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2008 California

    That is what I was thinking of. Thanks.
     
  20. yeahnatenelson

    yeahnatenelson Pooh-Bah (1,952) Feb 8, 2010 Illinois
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    The answer is a little bit of both: It's common for brewers to stretch out the life of barrels to 2-3 uses. However, with each use you lose barrel character and if you keep using the barrel, presuming it remains viable, it eventually won't have any bourbon character left, which is where breweries like Jolly Pumpkin come in (side note: can you taste any KBS in La Roja?). Also, barrels will become non-usable for other reasons, like infection, damage, stave warping, etc.

    Per John Laffler, BCBS barrels are used only once. I know some of their small run sours (non-Three Sisters) use the old BCBS barrels, some get sold publicly, and perhaps some get sold to other breweries.
     
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