Beer Impression, Balance vs. Impact

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  1. nerdboy19

    nerdboy19 Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2015 South Korea
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    I'm a newb beer geek(1 yo drinking crafts), and when I drink some high rated beers, I find out most of them are "Balance accentuated". I get that is one virtue of beers, but when I drink those I think "OK Very Well standard and balanced... 3.5/5.0". What I prefer is a "Impact", mostly found in some BAed Imperial Stouts or hazy juice bomb NE IPAs. I know some beers like "Samuel Smith Imperial Stout" ,"Stone Russian Imperial Stout", "Russian River Pliny the Elder" are very well made and great beers, but I just don't get an impact by them like "Prairie Bomb!" or "Alchemist Heady Topper"(*IMO*)

    My friend, who is 5~6 yo beer geek, call me "Impact lover" and he says I will get the fascinating charm of balance if I drink more and more.

    So BAs, what do you prefer? Balace? or Impact?
     
  2. jzeilinger

    jzeilinger Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,847) Dec 4, 2004 Pennsylvania
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    I think there's a place for both and enjoy both. I don't need to be "wow'd" every time, I just want a well crafted beer with some substance.
     
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  3. David_Deas

    David_Deas Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2016 North Carolina

    Balance. Anybody can make food or drink that will blow a customer's face off. I mean, anybody.

    The need to have your head blown off with every sip is a sign of youth. We all have to go extreme for a little while.

    Eventually you'll come around. We all do.
     
  4. SLewis

    SLewis Pundit (901) Jun 17, 2014 North Carolina

    A steady diet of German hefeweizens and lagers can bring your taste buds back to enjoying the simpler flavors in beer.
     
  5. CJNAPS

    CJNAPS Pooh-Bah (2,492) Nov 3, 2013 California
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    You lost me when you said you didn't get a "impact" from Pliny hahaha Bias I know but I'm honest about it hahah Cheers
     
  6. nerdboy19

    nerdboy19 Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2015 South Korea
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    I tasted it right after HT so I should try it again! Pliny was imported here yesterday! but +20$ for a bottle...damn :slight_frown:
     
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  7. CJNAPS

    CJNAPS Pooh-Bah (2,492) Nov 3, 2013 California
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    Damn ! that's a lot, it's 5:50 at the brewery. I didn't know Pliny made it way out there. How fresh is it when it gets to you ?
     
  8. nerdboy19

    nerdboy19 Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2015 South Korea
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    PtE was 1/21 bottled, Blind Pig was 2/10, it is the freshest IPA you can get in Korea, since the freshest IPA was Sculpin, usually 2 month old... 5.50? That's so cheap! Planning a beercation to CA this summer, already excited!
     
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  9. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    Beers with that amazing balance give me that impact. I dont look for impact but it happens. Schlafly Kolsch for example. It was so good i finished it in less than 5 minutes but was so tasty that i still remember it almost a year later.
     
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  10. hopnado

    hopnado Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2014 Michigan

    I like both impact and balance:

    Two Hearted
    Prima Pils
    Founders Porter
    Red Chair
    Best Brown
    Left Hand Milk Stout(non nitro)
    Dogfish 90
    SN Ruthless

    The oldies but goodies can still provide a good punch
     
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  11. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    This reminds me of the first time I had Sucks on tap, bad weekend, sitting at a pizza joint with my wife. Ordered the Sucks and I looked at my wife and said "We are going to be here a while". I don't mind the occasional Impact beer, but if I am buying more than one, it is going to be a balanced beer. I keep Sucks (when I find it fresh), MetaModern and soon to be when they get thru canning it 11 Below Color Blind at my house for recreational drinking :slight_smile:.
    But I am going to have to disagree on Heady and Bomb being impact beers. I find Heady a tremendously balanced beer, and Bomb to me is a great Imperial Stout, that carries it's ABV quite well. When you say Impact beer I start thinking about Palate Wrecker and Boozy RIS that don't stand a chance of cooling off no matter how long you age them.
     
  12. CJNAPS

    CJNAPS Pooh-Bah (2,492) Nov 3, 2013 California
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    If your planning on a beercation the place to come is California. Your getting those beers pretty fresh, that's awesome.
     
  13. SCW

    SCW Initiate (0) Jul 25, 2004 New York

    This is true. Almost like an IPA-detox. :-)
     
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  14. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Apologies to the OP, but this truly reads like a parody of the whole scene lately.
     
  15. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    I like em all and I don't get bored, variety is its own reward.
     
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  16. tillmac62

    tillmac62 Pooh-Bah (2,859) Oct 2, 2013 South Carolina
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    It's beer specific. Great world class beer comes as a result of the whole. Some do it with impact, others with balance while most do it with a combination of factors. That is why it's called the brewers art.
     
  17. David_Deas

    David_Deas Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2016 North Carolina

    Please. Don't ever taste IPA's back to back. The first IPA alters the taste and experience of the second IPA, so much so that the second IPA would have come across your palate differently by itself the next day. That has been my experience 100% of the time.

    These beers are expensive to get out of distribution.
     
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  18. nerdboy19

    nerdboy19 Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2015 South Korea
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    I got a glass shared by a friend, so if I get some IPA and got to drink them by myself, I will do that!
    Thanks for the tips!
     
  19. RLVineh

    RLVineh Zealot (572) Jun 21, 2014 California
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    Balance for me, anyone can make a super bitter IPA or a super Bourbon tasting BA Stout. Give me balance, because i think that is tougher to achieve, and I enjoy a balanced beer more
     
  20. David_Deas

    David_Deas Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2016 North Carolina

    I've never had a Pliny a month out so I can't say what it was like, but if its just a week old or so the hops cascade through your sinuses without any hint of bitterness on the palate. Very smooth body with malt presence, but no malt taste. Then, miraculously, the beer finishes crisp and clean. Its the type of beer you could drink one after the other all day long no matter the situation or the weather.

    The hop bill on the Heady is obviously smaller. It does not send hops cascading through your sinuses like the Pliny does. But the Hop profile is much more advanced that the Pliny, to the point where the beer tastes almost like some kind of wit. No real bitterness, but it kind of leaves you in awe of what can be done with hops these days.

    Both excellent beers, but so wildly different that they have no business ever being compared to one another.
     
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