Trade Value of Drie Fonteinen

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by Shoo65, Aug 31, 2012.

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  1. Shoo65

    Shoo65 Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2011 Indiana

    So I have some 750's of Oude geuze and 375ml of golden blend coming in to my store, but alas they are not my thing. Just wondering what these may trade for. Top wants for me are:
    08 Darkness
    3 Floyds Barrel Aged (Owde Engwhish, Behemoth, Alpha Klaus, Cabra)
    Vintage Dark Lord (not '12)
    etc.
    Any insight would be extremely helpful.
    Thanks all,
    Cheers,
    Jordan
     
  2. ehammond1

    ehammond1 Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2008

    Please let your customers have a shot at them them first. Let them sit on the shelf for 30 days, then id love to work something out with you.
    Cheers!
     
  3. davey101

    davey101 Pooh-Bah (2,360) Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
    Pooh-Bah

    Nothing on your list. A few months ago when you could only get golden blend online...then it could pull in some limited stuff. Right now both the golden and standard gueuze be seeing fairly wide Shelton distribution.
     
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  4. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    insight: when was the last time the beers on your list came into your store?
     
  5. davey101

    davey101 Pooh-Bah (2,360) Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
    Pooh-Bah

    Bingo!
     
  6. Shoo65

    Shoo65 Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2011 Indiana

    Fair enough,
    Like I said, I was just asking for some insight. I wasnt sure.
     
  7. denimdemon

    denimdemon Initiate (0) Mar 8, 2009 Indiana

    So were the bottles of St. Lamvinus your store got actually just limited to "regular customers" as I was told, or were those used for personal whale-hunting on here too? As someone that's shopped on and off for a few years at your store and the market, this thread is a bummer.
     
  8. Shoo65

    Shoo65 Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2011 Indiana

    No I bought One of the six bottles and sold the other 5 to customers of the store. I value my customers very much and anyone that has met me or shopped at my store and spent more than 5 minutes talking with me will tell you the same thing. The bottles did not see the shelf because I offered them up to the people that I see the most in my store and they took advantage of them. I apologize if you thought differently, but that was certainly not the case at all.
     
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  9. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    Oude Gueuze has almost zero trade value beyond other shelf beers. Golden Blend is in distro now, so the trade value it did have is mostly gone.

    As others have said - don't buy your own store's limited releases until your customers have had a decent stab at them first. Their business keeps you employed.
     
  10. Shagtastic

    Shagtastic Initiate (0) Jul 30, 2011 Indiana

    Being in retail myself I am a bit surprised to see this. I don't know how others work their stores but I personally never buy anything I don't intend to drink myself. I'm sure you're a great beer guy but Indy doesn't get stuff like this often and I'd love to see them go to people who intend to drink them instead of trading them.
     
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  11. Shoo65

    Shoo65 Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2011 Indiana

    So it's ok for customers to buy and trade them but if I wanted to buy one and do the same thing it's wrong ? I'm sorry if I don't see the logic here, more than the majority goes to my customer base. This wasn't the original point anyways, thanks for all who let me know, but my entire Allocations of this is going to customers .
     
  12. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    I'm not even a huge fan of employees buying limited releases for themselves, but trading is just getting a bit abusive IMO. In most other retail businesses, the limited stuff is reserved purely for customers. For example, anything awesome/limited that shows up in a weekly Best Buy or Walmart circular is typically completely off limits to employees. Rarities and special deals and stuff like that are supposed to be special treats for customers - the store doesn't get enough to make much money on them, so it's more like a periodic "thank you" for shopping here and keeping us in business by buying our normal beers all year long.

    If a store gets 12 bottles of something and wants to split one amongst 3-4 employees, I have no problem with that. But there are stores out there that will get 12 bottles, immediately have 5 taken by employees, and only sell 7 to their customers. That's just not putting the customer first.
     
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  13. Shoo65

    Shoo65 Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2011 Indiana

    Understood. New to being a manager , 3 months now . I appreciate the insight
     
  14. gpawned

    gpawned Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2012 Illinois

    I don't think OP is doing anything wrong. He is working hard to acquire amazing beer for his customers and the fact that he can reap some of the benefits probably only motivates him to do so even harder. This isn't a situation where the store makes no money off of a door buster deal so there is no reason why he shouldn't be eligible to buy one if the company has no policy against him doing so and whether he wants to drink it or trade it to a fellow BA, regular trading partner or even a stranger should have no bearing.

    OP, keep up the good work and just do your best to secure as much of this type of stuff for your customers as you can.
     
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  15. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

    What about an in-person trade to someone who would've bought the bottle, given the opportunity?
    /Devil's Advocate
     
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  16. Shmeal

    Shmeal Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2009 Oregon

    I'm the guy who offered OP some beer for the Golden Blend. However, Rempo has a point, if he can make a trade happen IP to someone who would have loved to buy that bottle, he should do so.
     
  17. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

    That's wasn't quite my (hypothetical) point.
     
  18. Shmeal

    Shmeal Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2009 Oregon

    Wasn't stating that you specifically wanted to do an IP trade, but if he can get an IP trade done with someone that would have wanted to buy the bottle from his shop, he should do so. He saves shipping, and his store goes up several notches in the prospective customer's opinion of the place. Everyone wins..

    except me, but there's always more golden blend!
     
  19. coreyfmcdonald

    coreyfmcdonald Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2008 Georgia

    You may be right now, but 3F is drying up mightly quickly (around these parts, anyways). Once the non-enthusiasts figure out it's as good (IMO better) than Cantillon, I think it's going to get a lot more trade value. Just speculation (and I hope I'm wrong), but a year from now I can see it pulling in fairly recent vintage DL.
     
  20. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

    Shouldn't he just let the person buy it? After doing an eBay background check and/or consulting with nearby stores' beer managers that the person isn't hoarding and/or making sure the person will consume and not trade, of course.
     
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