New Beer Sunday (week 579)

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  1. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    Harbingers of Helles and Hamburglers of Hefeweizens! Lets leave our workday worries by the wayside if only for a while and turn our attention toward waxwings and wheat beer, to songbirds and saisons, to flower gardens and flanders reds. Welcome to New Beer Sunday. Today is the day and this is the place for you to TRY a new beer and TELL us about it. The way to review a beer is to appreciate its attributes in each of five categories. Appearance, aroma, taste, mouthfeel and overall impression. Don't be shy we want to hear it all and show us your stuff too. Photos are always welcome in NBS!

    Spring is a time of rejuvenation and renewal. I know I am looking forward to getting back out of doors and seeing all the lovely land behind my building thrive again with wildflowers, deer and birds! I rarely plant anything myself as I just don't have a green thumb and mother nature does it so much better anyway. I am expecting the pileated woodpecker! I love them. Tap tap tapping all morning. I feed crows, ravens, and little birds in many varieties too. We also have deer on our little hilly knoll and ours are frolicsome and quite hearty.

    Today I have Ommegang's latest in their Game of Thrones series. This is Seven Kingdoms.

    Happy New Hoppy Wheat Ale Sunday!

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    Thank you @kerry4porters for that handsome glass! :grinning:

    Ommegang is calling this a hoppy wheat ale and they are using lots of American IPA hops. They are also using some specialty malts. The malt bill is pilsner, red and white wheat, oats and they are also adding sugar for body. I tried to look up the use of sugar in wheat beer and I could not find anything. The hops are bravo, centennial, cascade and columbus.


    Pours hazy and yellow with plenty of stuff in suspension. That is yeast. Just off white loose head that lasted well. Handsome appearance.

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    The wheat scent on the nose seems darker or nuttier than usual, That's from the red wheat and the oats. No banana, some herbal hop spice, a sweet tropical scent, very little clove and some coriander. Citrus. I have a faint stone fruit scent and a sweet lemon peel. Middle is juicy and is strongly hop forward . I would say the red wheat and the oats combine well for a different than the usual wheat flavor. Carbonation is bubbly, the oats soften the breadiness enough to show you what I think is a little funk. Herbal and spice from hop as the beer finishes without as much definition from the hops or the malt as I would have expected. The bitterness does rush the finish and breaddiness lingers with bitterness and a bubbly bite. I found some banana peel and pear ester after a while in the taste and aftertaste. Also some light funk as it finishes more like an IPA in the mouthfeel than a wheat beer .

    Cheers NBS !


    The Crusaders
     
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  2. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 Maryland

    Great Review as always Maria! About time you tagged Kerry "The Beer Beast" for those lovely Victory Drinking Vessels! :grinning:
     
  3. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    I told him I only drink from the horns of goats and look at what he sends me :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  4. Homebrew

    Homebrew Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2012 Connecticut

    Early morning start @utopiajane ?? On Easter Sunday !? No new beers for me till tonite, as I have to work for a few hours today :slight_frown: where I will consume the beers left over from last nites thimble island tasting!!! So for now I leave y'all with this
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    Happy Easter everyone!!! And more important enjoy some good beer and be safe!!!
     
  5. Highbrow

    Highbrow Pooh-Bah (1,770) Jan 7, 2011 California
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    finishing off this now. very, very good. had heard good things about these for years, but, far as i know, only 1 store here has access to Bell's stuff. color me impressed!





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  6. Ozzylizard

    Ozzylizard Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,419) Oct 5, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    Good morning New BSers! Maria, as always, thank you for the great opening. Just one question - where's the food? I live vicariously through your breakfasts (mine consist of corn chips, salsa, and beer while watching old Perry Masons). Anyway, speaking of woodpeckers, a few minutes ago a flicker was attacking my neighbor's red maple. Of course, when I opened the back door to look at it, it flew into the sun. Now I'll be seeing blue spots for 15 minutes.

    Anyway, today's new breakfast beer is:

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    I picked this up last week at the brewery while accruing brews for NBS BIF #3. Generally speaking, I like wild ales but I don't particularly care for raspberry beers. This may be the exception - to not liking raspberry beers that is. Can't wait to hear what @2beerdogs has to say about it. Anyway,

    Purchased at the brewery
    Undated 25.4 oz bottle at 42 degrees into a hand washed and dried JK snifter
    Aroma – raspberries
    Head small (< one cm, careful pour), off white, fizzy, gone in 60 seconds, no ring, no layer
    Lacing – none
    Body – reddish-brown, opaque, effervescent, sediment in bottom of bottle. Clears slightly as it warms.
    Flavor – moderately tart, some raspberry but (fortunately) not overpowering. A little wild ale funk (What, exactly, does "horse blanket" taste like and who tastes them?). No malt, no hops, no diacetyl
    Palate – medium, dry, lively carbonation

    Leaves my lips slightly sticky, but otherwise not atypical for a wild ale, just not a fan of raspberries.

    Appearance 4, Aroma 4.5, Flavor 4, Palate 4, Overall 4, Rating 4.19. Avg 3.97, rDev +3.8

    Anyway, NBSers, enjoy your day! Cheers!
     
  7. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Good morning all and happy Easter,
    The wagon has carried me around for 26 days, so I'm loving indulging in the myriad vicarious beer options of NBS. I've made lots of headway in multiple projects, so my vacation from beer has been very productive. I love keeping busy.
    Andy Griffith was from Mt. Airy, N.C. deep in bluegrass and old time music territory. I caught this tune from The Darlings (The Dillards in real life) while getting a Mayberry fix earlier this week. I love this tune and marvel that this episode is from 1963. Cheers friends. Maggie Peterson/vocals.
     
  8. SawDog505

    SawDog505 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,922) Apr 9, 2010 New Hampshire
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    [​IMG] Many thanks @WesMantooth for this dankly tropical treat. Poured into my favorite Lost Abbey stemmed tulip glass bottled on 2/8/16. Pours a gorgeous bright orange a 1 inch head, that clings to the sides of the glass like my kids to there chocolate Easter Bunny. 4.25[​IMG] Smell mango, marijuana, papaya, tangerine, pine trees, and a hit of grapefruit. 4.5

    Taste follows immediately a hit of marijuana, mango, papaya, tangerine, pine pitch, and a nice subtle hit of grapefruit that lingers on the tongue, like hard boiled eggs in your kitchen on Easter weekend. 4.75[​IMG] Mouthfeel on this baby is devine. Body is on the large side for the style, moderate carbonation which is perfect, maybe a tiny bit dry, and the drinkability is amazing for 9% ABV. 5

    Overall this beer had my highest expectations and it delivered as a former pot head, this is probably the dankest DIPA I have ever sipped. 4.5[​IMG]
     
  9. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
    In Memoriam

    Can you tell us more about what that beer is like so others can learn from your experience with it?
     
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  10. Angerhaus

    Angerhaus Pooh-Bah (2,020) Oct 1, 2015 Rhode Island
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    In celebration of another year disappearing from my life, this week my special new beer is Firestone Walker's 14th Anniversary Ale. This was the fifth release from there barrel aged program, and it has probably aged more gracefully than I have since 2010. The brew clocks in at 12.5%, but you'd never guess that by taste and mouthfeel.

    Per the information sheet in the box: "The blend consists of: 31% Double Double Barrel Ale, 29% Sticky Monkey, 27% Parabola, 7% Velvet Merkin, 3% Good Foot, and 3% Black Xantus. As a finished beer, 14 is brimming with amazing flavors and textures. DDBA leads the blend lending American toasted oak, English caramel toffee and light leather nuances. Newcomer, Sticky Monkey, folds in the taste of brown sugar, molasses, cinnamon, ginger and ripe figs. Parabola brings the familiar flavors of bitter dark chocolate and cherry pit. Velvet Merkin carries silky bourbon soaked chocolate cake goodness to the party while a touch of Black Xantus teases coffee and tobacco. Last, but not least, Good Foot brings the hops... hints of citrus zest and tangerine, which adds a pop to the aroma and nice finish to this big, sexy brew."

    The coffee and hops have, of course, walked away like Sam and Frodo taking the one ring to Mordor. The flavor that I felt most survived is that of the figs and cherry. Those dark fruits hit you in the nose and follow on the tongue in a manner that reminded me a lot of smoked bourbon. Beyond that, the nose was such a pleasant mix of bourbon, dark fruits, and molasses that my birthday celebrators and I had a conversation about just that for almost 10 minutes.

    Like many superior blended beers, it was dangerously drinkable. While we sometimes like to hoard our good stuff, I was glad to have a few friends with which to share this. Having it alone would have left me blitz out of my mind, and I don't know that I would have felt right drinking a bottle like this without some friends to enjoy it with me. I realize that such a statement is not the greatest way to empirically describe a beverage, but sometimes the intangibles are what help us to enjoy what we're drinking. Honestly, think to yourself about the beers you've celebrated in the company of good friends, only to find that they didn't have the same level of enjoyment on your own. This is not to say that I would not have found FW14 delightful on my own, merely that this goes into a class of beer that is best enjoyed with people that help you smile, people that help you laugh, and, quite simply, people that deserve to share your best bottles.

    Cheers, advocators!
     
  11. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
    In Memoriam


    Appreciate hearing about this one as it was a sad day when they discontinued their Raspberry Stout.

    BTW, smell a horse blanket and you'll pretty much know what it would taste like. Sounds gross, but....
     
  12. foundersasap

    foundersasap Maven (1,405) Feb 2, 2015 Michigan
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    Happy Easter! I received this gem thanks to @beerloserLI, and NBS BIF, my first time with this great system of getting new beers.

    Troegs Nugget Nectar, poured hard to generate a frothy head, but could only get one finger which dissipated quickly. Good carb but not enough to sustain a head. Smelled piney, sweet not too strong, Taste of grapefruit, mango, smooth upfront with a little bitter after taste. The malt balance was a nice offset to the hoppiness. Overall, quite a nice IPA. Thanks Brian

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  13. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    You too @Ozzylizard ! lol

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    Also . . . and now this is just for Easter . . . "crocodile"

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  14. Ozzylizard

    Ozzylizard Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,419) Oct 5, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    Too cool!
     
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  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Smashing Easter beers – a tale with a beginning and an end!

    Happy Easter everybody!!

    My original intent for today was to just review one beer (Southern Tier DIPA 2XSMASH) but since I had another similar beer in the fridge it seemed to make sense to conduct a twofer today.

    As likely most of you know SMASH stands for Single Malt And Single Hop beer.

    The Southern Tier 2XSMASH beer is the last of that 6-pack (the end) and it was brewed using Mosaic hops and Special Ale Malt. I have no idea what Special Ale Malt is but through my homebrewing I am very familiar with Mosaic hops.

    The ‘challenger’ is Founders Mosaic Promise which I discussed in a past New Beer Sunday thread: http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/new-beer-sunday-week-565.367630/#post-4351786

    From that past thread:

    “Mosaic Promise showcases two unique ingredients: Mosaic Hops and Golden Promise Malt. The versatility of the hops pleasing aroma and flavor characteristics and the traditional barley’s depth of flavor comprise this clean, rich, golden beer. We can complex with the best of them, but we recognize that there is also beauty in simplicity.”

    This Founders beer is the first of my recently purchased 6-pack: the beginning.

    I think it will be exciting to conduct this side-by-side tasting.

    In the immortal words of Mr. T “quit your jibber jabber” and get down to drinking.

    Served in my Spiegelau IPA glasses:

    Appearance:

    ST: Medium gold in color with a thin white head which dissipates quickly.

    Founders: Light gold in color with a big fluffy white head.

    Aroma:

    ST: I pick up a moderate amount of fruity hop aroma; not really anything malt wise.

    Founders: Whoa! A BIG hop aroma of dank!! I was not expecting that at all. There is also a bit of fruity from the hops but very much in the background compared to the dank. As the beer opens up I pick up some malt aroma as well.

    Taste:

    ST: I am picking up some dank on the flavor along with fruity. There is a bit of noticeable alcohol (this beer is 8.1% ABV) and also a touch of sweetness.

    Founders: The flavor very much follows the nose with dank being the dominant flavor. There is some malt flavor as the beer opens up.

    Mouthfeel:

    ST: Medium body, lightly carbonated with a semi-dry finish.

    Founders: Medium body, moderate carbonation with a dry finish

    Overall:

    ST: A very good Mosaic hopped DIPA

    Founders: If you want a beer that features dank, this batch of Mosaic Promise is for you!!

    A post mortem on this tasting event:

    This batch of Founder Mosaic Promise (bottled on 02/29/16; 17:40:18) is very different from my last batch (read my other NBS post linked above). In this batch the aroma/flavor is dominated by dank which is not one of my personal favorite hop flavors.

    I have homebrewed several times where I featured Mosaic hops. All of those beers were similar to the previous version of Founders Mosaic Promise where the dominant flavors were fruity (e.g., berry fruits). I really liked those Mosaic beers.

    Hops are akin to wine grapes where there is a strong terroir effect; hops (wine grapes) grown in geographically different places will taste differently. My guess is that the difference I am noting here with this batch of Founders Mosaic Promise (and even the Southern Tier beer too from a flavor perspective) is due to differing hop crops (location and maybe even hop crop year as well).

    Drinking beer can often be a surprising hobby!?!

    Cheers!

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  16. Ri0

    Ri0 Initiate (0) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin

    One of my favorite shelf imperial stouts. Always buy a sixer to let sit and enjoy the following year.
     
  17. DoctorZombies

    DoctorZombies Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,827) Feb 1, 2015 Florida
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    I remember the tv episode well, and have seen it several times over the years. Growing up in WV my second instrument was a 5 string banjo as a youngster, and I have a soft spot for bluegrass...thanks for a fine tune and a happy memory!
     
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  18. cjgiant

    cjgiant Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,584) Jul 13, 2013 District of Columbia
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    Do you think that the relative freshness of the two Mosaic Promises might have some effect on the difference bottle vs bottle (batch vs batch)? Your older post didn't mention a bottle date. Although from your description, not sure if a few extra weeks would make that big a difference.

    After seeing these beers around more and more, I've been toying with the idea of, when I do motivate myself to some new batches, trying some one-gallon SMaSH beers in an attempt to better understand how the different malts and hops affect a beer. As I think it through I have been debating how to control the hops, by volume or by expected IBU, or something else - as your review shows, the same featured hop can still produce different profiles (although in this case, there was also a difference in malt).
     
  19. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    Ok you all I thought I would make this a Two Beer Sunday. Cheers!


    Ithaca Beer Company Happy Pils

    The beer is 5% abv and uses for malt pilsner and pale malts. For hops the website says German "tettnag" - is that spelled wrong? Tettenang? Tettenanger? The other hop they are using is listed as German mittlefruh. In my experience that is Hallertau mittlefruh or Hallertauer hops. See how the region then the hop variety is in the name, which denotes that these hops are specific to a region and that is because of the German language.

    I am very excited about Ithaca brewing this beer. Cheers and Happy Two Beer Sunday!

    The pour is yellow and a slight haze. A White head that falls fast and bubbles that rise are all over the glass. Thank you @kerry4porters for this lovey new glass!

    Nose is breaddy malt and lightly cool herbal hop. Spice and floral. These hops have a quality like earth and stemmy grass. There's no fruity esters from yeast, no diacetyl, no dms on the nose. No fruit scent from hops either. Nothing, no citrus. This is the noble hop at it's very best. Soft sweet earth and a wonderful complexity all it's own owing to terroir.

    The taste is breaddy but softly with the addition of pale malt. The hop herbal is just forward. It's actually the use of the pale malt that is showing me the juicy quality of these noble hops that are found in so many pale ale styles and with very different hops! Crisp clean and with only the a trace of dms to usher in the crisp finish. Strong bitterness finishes the beer but it does not strip the flavors or the finish. It lingers bitter and clear.

    Exemplary.

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    Big Boss Man Sea Groove
     
  20. RonaldTheriot

    RonaldTheriot Grand Pooh-Bah (3,749) Aug 11, 2008 Louisiana
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    [​IMG] 8% alcohol. Brewed in Belgium.

    3.36/5 rDev -13%
    look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

    My bottle, I'm afraid was almost three years past the best-buy date. Arend Tripel had almost no head (just a cream-colored, very thin layer). No lacing to speak of. The aroma was of almost overripe fruit, fruit cake, tropical fruit, candy sugar, and possibly a hint of alcohol. Taste is of all that, with no bitterness or booze. Mouthfeel is medium, and this Arend Tripel finished semi-sweet and seemed quite aged.

    RJT

     
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