Struck fermentation with high gravity stout

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  1. BeerDunson

    BeerDunson Zealot (516) Jul 20, 2012 Ohio
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    Me and some friends were brewing what was supposed to be 10 gallons of an RIS. We planned on doing an extended boil, but between drinking and grilling it was a little to extended of a boil. It condensed down to 6 gallons and luckily I made a healthy starter of wlp007. So it's stuck at 1.053 and was originally 1.150, so I'm around 13%abv how can I get the gravity to drop further. The 007 went much further than expected so I'm greatful for that, but I know I'll need another type of yeast to get me further. Any suggestions are much appreciated.
    Cheers
     
  2. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    call it a dark lord clone and be done with it! Also you're up above 15% abv with that bad boy…not sure you want to go much north of there…http://www.brewersfriend.com/abv-calculator/
    use alternate method to calculate abv…it takes the effects of ethanol into account when taking standard gravity readings.
     
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  3. mbbransc

    mbbransc Initiate (0) Mar 24, 2009 North Carolina

    I'm just curious, if the 007 went further than you expected it to go, what was your original plan to finish?
     
  4. BeerDunson

    BeerDunson Zealot (516) Jul 20, 2012 Ohio
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    My original plan was to.be at 10 gallons not 6
     
  5. BeerDunson

    BeerDunson Zealot (516) Jul 20, 2012 Ohio
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    I know 007 caps at 12% and would've pitched a more alcohol tolerant yeast if I knew my sg would be 1.150
     
  6. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    You're done. And I am surprised you got that low.

    Edit, what was your grain bill like?
     
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Your other option on brew day was to add some top off water to achieve your 10 gallons. Needless to say that 'ship has sailed' but this is something you could do in the future if this situation happens again.

    I would suggest that another 'lesson learned' is no drinking on brew day.

    Cheers!
     
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  8. BeerDunson

    BeerDunson Zealot (516) Jul 20, 2012 Ohio
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    Lesson learned!
     
  9. BeerDunson

    BeerDunson Zealot (516) Jul 20, 2012 Ohio
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    34 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 4 87.2 %
    2 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 5 5.1 %
    2 lbs Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 6 5.1 %
    1 lbs Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain 7 2.6 %
    5.00 oz Equinox [14.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min
     
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  10. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I have done a few big stouts, and most of my yeast dies out around 12 to 15% abv. You are probably at fg. You could throw some wlp001 or us05 at it, but i doubt anything will happen. Maybe @stealth has some wisdom, but I would bottle it up.
     
  11. NiceFly

    NiceFly Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    You are done, son.

    I have made similar "mistakes" and started a weizenbock at 1.160. It hit FG60 and could not get it down further no matter what I did. That included adding raging starter of WLP099, Brett, whatever.

    Ended up bottling it. Tasty, but gave me the hershey squirts.

    Proceed as intended. Buy some Charmin.
     
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  12. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    Like some others said, do some vanilla, coffee, cocoa and bourbon aging and call it a Dark Lord clone, or some variation and get the next #1 rated beer here.
     
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  13. pittvkyle7

    pittvkyle7 Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2007 Connecticut

    Too much boil off isn't the worst problem. You could have topped off at least some of the volume with water. 10 gallons of this wort would have been at 1.090. Is that what you were shooting for? I'm not saying you should have topped off with 4 gallons of water- you would sacrifice too much flavor. But you could have added 2 gallons of water to achieve a 1.110 original gravity.
     
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  14. stealth

    stealth Pooh-Bah (2,023) Dec 16, 2011 Minnesota
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    You got the 007 to go about as far as you can expect it to. At this point you can try pitching a healthy oxygenated starter of WLP099 with some nutrients and energizer and cross your fingers, or you can dilute the wort and pitch wlp099 to finish it. I don't think that would affect the flavor TOO much if you say, dilute to 10% - you can also 'back sweeten' with malto to get some body back too if it gets too thin.

    Or freeze concentrate it and have some awesome RIS eisbock/liquor.
     
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  15. daem3384

    daem3384 Zealot (691) Nov 24, 2015 California

    You can also pitch a packet of EC-1118 (tolerant up to 18%) champagne yeast and a little nutrient if you still want it to drop a couple points without any additional flavors from yeast, but personally i think that thickness and body of beer would make a killer Dark Lord clone after some cocoa ave vanilla like everyone else is saying.
     
  16. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    It's too dry for dark lord...
     
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  17. drink1121

    drink1121 Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2009 California

    brew and ferment a very dry, smaller stout and blend into two 5 gallon batches then take one batch and do some treatments on it.
     
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  18. BeerDunson

    BeerDunson Zealot (516) Jul 20, 2012 Ohio
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    Really appreciate all the help everyone. Put it on a heating pad for a day on the lowest setting, gently stirred with sterile spoon, hydrated some champagne yeast and tossed it in. I'll report back with results. Thanks again
     
  19. mbbransc

    mbbransc Initiate (0) Mar 24, 2009 North Carolina

    I could be wrong, but as I understand, champagne yeast really only eat simple sugars. They do work in hostile environments. Those two combos are what make them a good candidate to bottle big beers with but I don't think they'll eat any complex sugar chains, which is probably all you have left at this point.

    Next time you want a beer in this ballpark, check out some of the info on 120 Minute or Bruery Incremental Feedings. I used that for a "Black Tuesday" -esque clone back in November. Basically, brew a big beer around 1.100-1.120 and let the yeast go to work. As fermentation begins to close, begin pulling off samples, mixing in dextrose and adding it back. You'll be able to get several pounds of dextrose in and the yeast will continue munching on those simple sugars. I got my calculated OG up to 1.152 and FG of 1.030 (I used 007 and 099 yeast).

    Good luck!
     
  20. BeerDunson

    BeerDunson Zealot (516) Jul 20, 2012 Ohio
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    So after adding champagne yeast infection was only able to get the gravity to drop to 1.050. It's a bit sweet, but I added coconut to it, which actually goes well together. It ended up being over 13%. Thanks againot everyone for your help
     
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