India Pale Ale History

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  1. equinox

    equinox Devotee (333) Nov 27, 2009 New York

    Nowadays, many of us enjoy IPAs fresh. But were they not originally brewed because the hops "preserved" the beer? Did it take a long time for the beer to reach the consumer in the old days?
     
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  2. Justin82

    Justin82 Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2015 Massachusetts

    Long boat ride from england to india. So yes. Beyond that i don't know much about the history of ipas. English sailors during their colonization of india i believe
     
  3. Grindelvasdrum

    Grindelvasdrum Initiate (0) Aug 9, 2015 Kentucky

    Bet that was a long trial & error process.
     
  4. beertraveler08

    beertraveler08 Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2016 Louisiana

    Yeah not to mention the water was unsafe to drink,so IPA was a blessing for the people back then.
     
  5. PorterPro125

    PorterPro125 Pooh-Bah (1,700) Jan 19, 2013 Canada (NB)

    There isn't (to my knowledge) concrete evidence to suggest the exact history of how IPA's came about but it is known that 18th century brewers were told to add 'extra' hops to their beer if it was to travel any sort of distance.

    That sort of thing definitely supports the idea that it was brewed to survive the "long boat ride from England to India" as @Justin82 stated.
     
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  6. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
    In Memoriam

    By sailing ship the journey took about six months.
     
  7. JaefromLA

    JaefromLA Initiate (0) May 19, 2015 California

    How most people know it.

    Once upon a time Pliny. Now everybody loves 'em. End.

    Kidding. but that beer did wonders for the styles' popularity, being the first double/imperial.
     
  8. SLewis

    SLewis Pundit (901) Jun 17, 2014 North Carolina

    Oh my god...how did they drink beer that was several months old. Didn't they know that it begins tasting like garbage after two weeks?

    [sarcasm]
     
  9. SCW

    SCW Initiate (0) Jul 25, 2004 New York

    funny how things have changed, right? nowadays there is a "drink local" campaign, and heavily focused on IPAs.

    but the historical reality is that IPA never was local or fresh - it was a months-old import ;-)
     
  10. SirBottlecap

    SirBottlecap Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2013 California

    The story about the long haul around Africa is bogus. It was actually invented by Pliny the Elder back in 1322 as a beverage to be enjoyed at baseball games, which l believe he also invented.
     
  11. paulys55

    paulys55 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2010 Pennsylvania

  12. hophugger

    hophugger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,434) Mar 5, 2014 Virginia
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    Do hops really preserve the beer. to me, it seems that hoppy beers deteriorate after age ?!?!?!?!?
     
  13. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    Idk but every time I reread the history of IPA, I walk away none the wiser. It's all ambiguity run amuck.
     
  14. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    The hop aroma and flavor dissipates with age and oxygen ingress. The anti microbial properties (acids, essential oils and chloroform extract) apparently remain active long after aroma and flavor volatiles are lost.
     
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  15. David_Deas

    David_Deas Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2016 North Carolina

    Nobody really knows the origin of IPA's. When original recipes are tracked down they seem to have significant variation so it isn't entirely clear how exactly the beer was different and why it was brewed differently.

    Anybody telling you they know the origin of IPA's is likely just blowing smoke. They may believe they know, but they don't really know.
     
  16. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

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  17. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Folks should also remember that the English beers back then likely had Brettanomyces as part of the ferment, and spent time in wood barrels, some of which were treated with burning pitch inside to seal and protect, so likely there was flavor(s) added from that too. Brettanomyces actually means English Fungus. The likelihood is that our IPA and the original style in England are not even close to tasting similar. I always consider that if an IPA was fermented in a foeder with heirloom hops and with Brett C. added it might be as close as we come to the originals.
     
  18. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    Higher IBU's inhibit bacterial growth...hops don't act as a preservative, but an antibacterial agent. That's why the beer "stays" longer.
     
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  19. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    IPAs or "pale ales as prepared for India" were consumed by folks in England... but some had fewer hops and would therefore be suitable for drinking quicker than the export ale.
     
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