Ballast Point beer name changes

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  1. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Did you regularly buy Ballast Point Pale Ale? It has never been like many excellent American Pale Ales. Labelled as a Kolsch, BP Pale Ale should sell better. Are they tweaking the recipe?
     
  2. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    This "Pale Ale" has always been a "Kolsch." All they simply are doing is putting kolsch now on the can. The beer is still the same.
     
  3. tillmac62

    tillmac62 Pooh-Bah (2,859) Oct 2, 2013 South Carolina
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    Big companies have big marketing departments. That big department has to at least appear to be doing something, so...
     
  4. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    It appears that they think the word "California" has some kind of marketing value?
     
  5. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    It always was (in the fine print) labeled a Kolsch style. The name change brings that up front and centered.
     
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  6. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Satisfies (?) the BAs who loudly shout that Kolsch can only be brewed in the Koln area of Germany.
     
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  7. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    I had forgotten that, but it wasn't my type of "Kolsch". I still wonder if the recipe will be changed at all?
     
  8. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Actually I'd like see them improve the recipe since I've had Kolsch and Kolsch-style beers I liked better.
     
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  9. Oktoberfiesta

    Oktoberfiesta Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2013 New Mexico

    I believe they want to market BP globally as that "sunny beach California dreamin' " brewery. I see where they're coming from. Now at every tap they have strong holded (holding corona prices hostage), your average consumer will see these "California" themed beers. It truly fits in the theme that Corona tries to play with their commercials and whole marketing campaign.

    Can one even include a state name in a trademarked name of a beer?
     
  10. Dan_K

    Dan_K Pooh-Bah (1,980) Nov 8, 2013 Colorado
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    Absolutely. Not only that, but a city as well. Great Divide Denver Pale Ale, for example.
     
  11. hophugger

    hophugger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,434) Mar 5, 2014 Virginia
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    Don't understand the name changes unless they feel that they will boost sales. I thought the original names were just fine........
     
  12. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    I rarely buy Ballast Point, but when I do, it's usually one of these two... and I'm in "deep" but perhaps not a majority. :slight_smile:
     
  13. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    Good point I never tried their pale ale it seemed just another pale ale. Now that I know it's a Kolsch I'll pick some up.
     
  14. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Due to the brewery and packaging, it's easy to go into this beer expecting an "American pale ale," but when tried "blind" it reveals itself to be better than that. It's not a bad kolsch-esque beer. I've had other American kolsches that were more pale ale-ish than this one. I know you like Schlafly's, and personally, I like Schlafly's better.

    I think it might have been more dominantly labeled a kolsch two packaging iterations ago... but I can't remember exactly. As has been stated, this switch is really a switch between the title and the subtitle/fine print... since it still says "pale ale."

    Pale ale was a bad fit. A real kolsch isn't an ale, and consumers looking for a typical "American pale ale" would be let down.
     
  15. MikeP64

    MikeP64 Zealot (661) Jan 24, 2015 South Carolina

    I don't think they are changing all their beer names-just more of a retro reboot-would you get rid of 'sculpin'???IDTS....
     
  16. harsley

    harsley Maven (1,335) Jun 16, 2005 Massachusetts

    Not sure why they ever called a Kolsch a Pale Ale anyway...
     
  17. Davepoolesque

    Davepoolesque Pooh-Bah (2,686) Aug 25, 2012 Massachusetts
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    It's weird. As an APA I had no interest in it, but as a Kolsch, I want to pick it up and try it.
     
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  18. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Looking at images of old bottles is telling me that I remembered that wrong.
     
  19. StoutGuy29

    StoutGuy29 Initiate (0) Jun 9, 2015 Wisconsin

    The renaming of Calico seems silly.. But in all honesty, "Pale Ale" was not doing their Kolsch any favors. I'm not sure why they ever called it Pale Ale considering there's plenty of California breweries that clearly established what a "Pale Ale" was, so it's not like BP could have ever said that 'Pale Ale" means something different in Cali
     
  20. nerdboy19

    nerdboy19 Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2015 South Korea
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    Pale ale should definitely change it's name. Thought it was APA and man it was just a lager like kolsch.
     
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