Heady Topper taste variations: Drinking it as your first beer versus second or third.

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  1. AlpacaAlpaca

    AlpacaAlpaca Maven (1,384) Apr 2, 2014 New York
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    I bought two cases of Heady a month or so ago, and I've been slowly whittling them down. Since then, I've noticed there being a pronounced difference in how good they taste, depending on when I drink them. If Heady is the first beer I drink in a night, it's the same old delicious beer I traveled to Vermont for. If it's the second or third beer, it tastes way off. It has a nutty, cloying flavor that's not enjoyable.

    It's not that one case is bad and the other isn't, it only has that flavor when it's not the first beer, and has never had it when it was the first.

    Has anybody else experienced this? I've never had this with any other beer, DIPA or otherwise.

    Maybe Heady only shows its true brilliance to fresh palates!
     
  2. elucas730

    elucas730 Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2010 New York

    I figured out that I absolutely cannot drink a Heady after a Focal. The HT just gets washed out.
     
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  3. AlpacaAlpaca

    AlpacaAlpaca Maven (1,384) Apr 2, 2014 New York
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    Weird. Heady is a fickle drink
     
  4. Hyptochrons

    Hyptochrons Pooh-Bah (1,603) Jul 12, 2015 Massachusetts
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    never noticed this! I have noticed substantial changes within a case after a week or so, but never felt an influence from the previous beers I had drank.
     
  5. SLewis

    SLewis Pundit (901) Jun 17, 2014 North Carolina

    Palate Fatigue is real
     
  6. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    You might not have noticed this with other beers, but order matters.
     
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  7. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I find that any beer following a big tropical hopped beer tastes like crap. It's palate fatigue.
     
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  8. lewisti

    lewisti Zealot (523) Nov 7, 2001 Connecticut

    It seems that Heady used to be perceived as somewhat of a palate wrecker back in the day before others came out (like for instance Back East Palate Wrecker from CT)
     
  9. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Such things happen all the time. Your taste buds, etc. are impacted by what you've eaten or drunk before the beer and the first beer will show flavors that won't appear if it's the second or third beer. So basically you are the one causing loss of flavors by drinking it 2nd or 3rd since your taste buds (and your sense of smell) don't have time to recover.

    Basically the harder you pound them the longer it takes them to recover and it has happened to you before, it just wasn't so obvious. :slight_smile:
     
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  10. Statonxyb

    Statonxyb Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2015 Kentucky

    The first Heady Topper always gets me smilin' super wide. If I drink two or three during the same sitting, the flavor is definitely off. Still very enjoyable, but not as magical as the first can. Still will snatch them up when I find 'em. :slight_smile:
     
  11. Oktoberfiesta

    Oktoberfiesta Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2013 New Mexico

    Mentioned before. Palate fatigue. What you ate or drank or how your nose is doing. Boogers drag you down. It's why I don't officially rate beers here. I'll do the check in thing on a independent drinking basis. We have a local ipa, elevaTed ipa. I've had more than I want to say. Some batches feel more bright and tropical. Some feel more bitter. As far as I know, the recipe really hasn't changed at all over the years. I probably have 10 different opionions/views of it overall. Give me the same 4 pack drunken at different intervals or steps, and it make taste like 3 different beers. The extra aromatic/ bitter wreck my senses. It's why I don't trust many with scores. You've sampled and ticked more than 7 ipas? That's crazy. I don't go over 5 anymore these days
     
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  12. DirtyDawg10

    DirtyDawg10 Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2016 Connecticut

    Palate Mallet is by Back East. Palate Wrecker is by Green Flash.
     
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  13. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Elevated is vexing to me. When I have it on tap it tastes like blue cheese. The canned beer is a while other ball game. I know @erway was using an african (?) hop in elevated, maybe it has changed.
     
  14. raynmoon

    raynmoon Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado

    These "godsend" east coast IPAs, they're kinda sweet. A little too much for me. Can't have a second without noticing it really.

    Anybody else feel this way?
     
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  15. Brewday

    Brewday Zealot (721) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    The Heady i got two weeks ago also has that nutty/biscuit flavor. Didn't expect that so I put the rest to the back of the fridge to see if it changes. The Second Fiddle i got from Fiddlehead Brewing in Shelburne,VT was much better.
     
  16. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Palate fatigue, HT is far from a cloying brew. That volume of hops in such a short time would kill anyone palate, it can't be helped to some degree. I like Heady very cold, like most big beers it suffers a bit as it gets closer to room temp. It's my usual beach week beer, makes my week to pop those cans for a week.
     
  17. AlpacaAlpaca

    AlpacaAlpaca Maven (1,384) Apr 2, 2014 New York
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    Thanks, everybody! Palate fatigue had occurred to me, but I've never experienced it in such a profound and altering way. It was like drinking a completely different beer.
     
  18. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Not here.

    But then I like noticing the second beer almost as much as I like noticing the first. :-)
     
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  19. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2014 Massachusetts

    I think it's because its is just so freaking good the first time. If it were just ordinary good, the difference would be less pronounced. I never drink two of them at a time, and Heady always goes first. I find it's best if you follow it with something not hop driven, whether a Mayflower porter or a Sam Summer or whatever. Then I could go back to an IPA or IIPA, but wouldn't waste a Heady, something like Little Sumpin Sumpin.
     
  20. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Complexity is becoming a lost art. Everything seems to be made for immediate impact these days; well, at least the hyped up beers. And that seems to be driving this whole (d)evolution.
     
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