Arrogant Pilsner

Thanks for the heads up, Jess

Anyway, the part about drinkability was conceptual, but that's certainly what I'm hoping for. I will definitely be giving Arrogant Pilsner a fair shot on that point, and then take it from there however it goes.

 

Had the Pilot Series Pilsner on tap this weekend at the Kettner location. Not sure if it's the version that will become Wussie but it was good.

 

Stone recently (last March) collaborated with Sly Fox to brew a Pilsner they branded as Fuchstein Pils:



You can read more about it here:http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/new-beer-sunday-week-586.416991/#post-4767153

Cheers!

 

It's a shout out to their old slogan of "Fizzy Yellow Beer is for Wussies"

 

yeah, and looks like it will be the name of it as well.

 

I'm in, Stone never disappoints me (OK, once, but I won't mention it)

 

With all this great Cali weather, I'm gonna put some of these back for sure.

 

I'll give it a try excited to see stones version of a Pilsner.

 

Greg Koch provided a ‘sneak peek’ of the new Stone beer coming out:

“Koch: We have a beer coming out in July that I’m really excited about called Wussie. Actually the whole name is Who You Callin’ Wussie. It’s a hoppy northern German-style pilsner in 16-ounce six packs.”

http://www.chicagotribune.com/dinin...stone-dogfish-and-victory-20160519-story.html


I am looking forward to trying this new Pilsner from Stone.

I recently purchased a 6-pack of Genesee Pilot Batch Brew House North German style Pilsner and IMO this beer is excellent. Sly Fox Pikeland Pils is also marketed as: “A northern German-style Pilsner brewed with imported German pils malt and hopped with German and Czech hops. Light in body, light straw in color and dry.”

There is always room for more high quality German (northern German) style Pilsners IMO.

Cheers!

 

July! I needs it!!!

 

I've never heard a beer called a "Northern" German Pilsner before, how is that different from a standard German Pilsner?

 

In general, the N. German Pilsners are pale and have a more bitter lingering finish. Jever and Flensburger are two examples of those type of Pilsners. Compare with a Pilsner from Paulaner to see the difference.

 

Jeff (@hopfenunmaltz) provided a nice summary response.

Below is some more information for your consideration:

“To learn the difference between the two versions of German pilsner, you only have to understand a little about brewing. The water in northern Germany is fairly hard which accentuates the up-front bitterness. These beers display a strong, zesty, citrus-like in-your-face hop bitterness. The water in Bavaria and many other parts of southern Germany tends to be moderately to extremely soft which suppresses the bold hop bitterness. Many of the southern German pilsners favor more mellow hop aromatics than strong hop flavor and bitterness which is found in the northern German pilsners. The pilsners are quite different as a result of the different water profiles. Northern German pils are similar in flavor and bitterness to the Pilsen beers but with more flowery notes from the German noble hops used and more lingering bitterness from the higher sulfur content of their water which helps to make a drier and more attenuated beer. The beers from southern Germany on the other hand can be more like a Munich Helles than a pilsner. There is much more malty sweetness and less hop bitterness. At this time there is no distinction between the two types of German pils in the guidelines, but keep the differences in mind when tasting the different German pilsners.”

http://www.winning-homebrew.com/German-Pilsners.html

@utopiajane

Cheers

 

To get more specific, it is the sulfate in the water, not hardness. Hardness is the Ca and Mg content. Ca can come from gypsum CaSO4, or calcium chloride CaCl2. You could have water with the same hardness, Ca, and have a dry beer due to the SO4, or a beer with a malty flavor and rounded bitterness from the Cl.

Edit - the water can be adjusted anywhere these days. The water in the south can be hard, the water in the north can be soft. That depends on the local geology, surface water vs well water, deep well vs. shallow well.

 

Thanks guys, that's great to know!

 

Can't wait to try this. Love German Pilsners. Vunder Bar from Smuttynose is one of my go-tos in the summertime.

 

I'm guessing I'll really like this beer and won't consider it a pils at all.

 

I have always been one of Stone's biggest fans and supporters, but I am not sure that I'm in favor of a Stone Pils. While I can appreciate a vast array of beer styles, and recognize that each style has it's time and place, I somehow can't image the Stone gargoyle drinking a pilsner. Seems a little too mainstream for Stone. Stone, as always, good luck, but please don't start adding watermelon or mango to Arrogant Bastard!!

 

Pilsners are only mainstream in certain European countries. Definitely not here in the US.

 

Sounds interesting, definitely would like to try Stone's take on it.

Cheers!