Blind Tasting Suggestions (all styles)

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  1. kmbeer

    kmbeer Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2011 New York

    Hi all:

    My brother and his friends are planning on doing a round robin-style blind tasting of various styles to come up with a single winner (sort of like an NCAA tourny for beer) and asked for some ideas. I'm thinking it's best to do five general categories (IPA, IIPA/Imperial IPA, Saison, American Brown, and Stout) with five beers in each. I'm not looking for hard-to-find beers, but rather tried and true beers that are readily available in NY. Based upon my own preferences, I'm thinking the following, but would love suggestions, critiques, thoughts, etc. Thanks in advance.

    IPA
    - Bell's Two Hearted
    - BP Sculpin
    - Cigar City Jai Alai
    - Lagunitas IPA
    - Ithaca Flower Power

    IIPA/IIIPA
    - DFH 90 Minute
    - Stone Enjoy By
    - Victory DirtWolf
    - Lagunitas Sucks
    - Sixpoint Resin (or Hi-Res)

    Saison
    - Boulevard Tank 7
    - Ommegang Hennepin
    - Saison DuPont
    - GI Sofie
    - Brooklyn Sorachi Ace

    American Brown
    - Smuttynose Old Brown Dog
    - Avery Ellie's Brown
    - Founder's Sumatra
    - DFH Palo Santo Marron
    - SN Tumbler

    Stout
    - FBS
    - Brooklyn Black Chocolate
    - Bell's Expedition
    - Oscar Blues 10 Fidy
    - Great Divide Yeti
     
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  2. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    25 beers, 5 each from 5 different styles is much too ambitious and will result in several unfair judgments owing to fatigued palates long before the finish.

    Even with appropriate Palate cleansers (e.g., unsalted crackers and plenty of water) 5 beers in one session is plenty. (There is a very good reason why beer judging is done by mostly trained and experienced judges only working with one style and taking breaks between sessions.)

    Much more informative would be having 5 different tastings, one for each style, to pick the preferred choice in each style.
     
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  3. elucas730

    elucas730 Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2010 New York

    To be fair, she didn't specify whether this is in one sitting or multiple, but, yeah, doing 25 at once would be way too much.
     
  4. kmbeer

    kmbeer Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2011 New York

    It's going to be over the course of a weekend. It will be a single tasting for each style (possibly one style in the morning, another in the afternoon). And then the top choice from each style will be another tasting. So, ultimately, 6 "tastings" in total over the course of a weekend.
     
  5. elucas730

    elucas730 Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2010 New York

    The first thing that jumps out to me is in the American Brown category. You have 3 "regular" brown ales and then a 9% coffee brown and a 12% wood aged brown that are going to be radically differentiable from the others.
     
  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    @drtth is right on with his suggestion to conduct 5 different tastings spaced over a period of time. Maybe this was your original intention anyway but you didn't explicitly state so?

    As regards the hoppy beers (IPA/DIPA) it would be ideal to obtain all of the beers to be equally fresh. For example, if three of the IPAs are relatively fresh (e.g., less than 2 months old) and two are non-fresh this will distort your results. I have no good suggestions on how to ensure that all five of the beers of a given category is fresh. Maybe generate a prioritized list of IPAs and select the top five which are freshest.

    Permit me to suggest some alternates for the IPA category: Firestone Walker Union Jack, Stone IPA, Maine Lunch, Sixpoint Bengali, Captain Lawrence IPA, ...

    Cheers!
     
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  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Do you have some flexibility here with respect to scheduling? Could you conduct these tastings over two weekend (3 tastings per weekend) instead? In one sense I suppose it could be fun to have 6 tastings over a weekend but I would think this would be taxing for my personal palate. Not that I would say "no" to an invitation to join the festivities.:wink:

    Cheers!
     
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  8. elucas730

    elucas730 Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2010 New York

    One other thing that I notice is that at least one of the stouts (BCS) is seasonal, so unless you already have some or it's sitting on shelves, you may not be able to locate any. This then led to the thought that maybe you should be doing a maybe "seasonal" tasting. Instead of stouts, do pilsners (Prima Pils, Pivo Pils, The Crisp, Nooner, Brooklyn). Instead of Brown, do sours (Westbrook Gose, Ithaca Cayuga Cruiser, SN Otra Vez, DFH Festina Peche, Anderson Valley Briney Melon).
     
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  9. kmbeer

    kmbeer Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2011 New York

    Thanks for the suggestions. I do like the idea of doing a more summery style, especially since it will be in the beginning of July. I'm hesitant to remove stouts though, since this tends to be a favorite category. I think subbing sours/gose for browns might work. I could also probably eliminate the IIPA/IIIPA category and sub in a pilsner category.
     
  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    If Pilsners are now in consideration below is my suggested list:

    Sly Fox Pikeland Pils

    Victory Prima Pils

    Troegs Sunshine Pils

    Sixpoint Crisp

    Genesee Pilot Batch Brew House North German style Pilsner
     
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  11. TonyLema1

    TonyLema1 Pooh-Bah (2,890) Nov 19, 2008 South Carolina
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    Great beer choices on the categories you picked!!
     
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  12. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    In an attempt to keep your plan as intact as possible, I would make the following suggestions:
    - Drop the saison category
    - Do your IPAs on Saturday morning, and the imperial IPAs in the afternoon
    - Go with the favorite in each - head to head on Saturday night
    - Do your brown ales on Sunday morning, and the stouts in the afternoon
    - Go with the favorite in each - head to head on Sunday night
    - Leave it at that
     
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  13. kmbeer

    kmbeer Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2011 New York

    I like it! Thanks.
     
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  14. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    To elaborate on that suggestion, I'm not sure with the blind tastings done earlier in the day how the taster's could be blind for the evening head to head. As an alternative to trying to do a blind head to head you might look at having the evening sessions be a "drink it and discuss it" where the focus is on eveyone sharing what they think they are picking up in the beers and the pros and cons of each of the two beers. While this wouldn't give an overall winner, it would create some time for sharing information about the differences in people's impressions, the ingredient's list and how they are brewed, etc.
     
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  15. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    I agree, I think putting palo with the stouts makes more sense than brown ales. It's a big beer I don't think it's a fair comparison.
     
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  16. kmbeer

    kmbeer Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2011 New York

    Agreed. Palo Santo Marron is one of my favorites so I wanted to include it, but considering ABV and mouthfeel you're right that it should probably be included with the stouts.
     
  17. Oktoberfiesta

    Oktoberfiesta Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2013 New Mexico

    5 choices per each category is good but I would maybe go 6-7 and only have 3-4 categories.

    I'm not sure what your goal is. It does sound fun. For my tastings, I love including local mainstays, regional mainstays, and EVERYTHING in between. Find a 76 rated IPA, a 80, 85, mostly some 90s, and then some higher end stuff. Can you pick out the "mediocre" stuff? Maybe it's not so bad and preferred as a group.

    Maybe you do a ranking system. Maybe you do what my buddies and I do . We ask "Do we like it? Is it worth its price (sometimes trade value/time is taken into consideration)? Do we prefer it and want it again? More often than not it seems like a local beer wins out and then we wonder why we don't drink it more often; why we tend to dismiss a great local IPA thats always available when its actually winning so many blind tastings.
     
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  18. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    It's a killer beer, I would find a way to get it in the tasting for sure.
     
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  19. BecauseWhalezbro

    BecauseWhalezbro Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2015 Colorado

    Hi guys, I am also looking for some blind tasting suggestions. A few of us are getting together in Oct. Ive got some sweet blinds put together. I want to go deeper though. I want to do a Mystery Bottle Blind tasting for my friends. I want surprise them with a six bottle blind and have none of them know what bottles are in the blind. I am looking for the most out there theme possible.
     
  20. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Find five Cherry Stouts, and make the 6th an infected BCBS which will taste like cherry :wink:
     
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