Flagship Beers

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  1. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    kelly my point was I don't care how a brewer names their beer, rather how they make it.
     
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  2. teromous

    teromous Grand Pooh-Bah (3,180) Mar 21, 2010 Virginia
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  3. jvgoor3786

    jvgoor3786 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,222) May 28, 2015 Arkansas
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    What he said.
     
  4. cryptichead

    cryptichead Grand Pooh-Bah (4,857) Jul 3, 2014 Illinois
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    1. Pilsner
    2. IPA
    3. Imperial Stout
    4. DIPA
     
  5. ElijahSF

    ElijahSF Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2013 California

    Not to stray away from the subject, but I'd rather breweries not have flagship beers. There's a brewery that I frequent that has eleven beers on tap and nine of the eleven are a different style of beer. How many breweries can claim that on a regular basis?
     
  6. thepenguin

    thepenguin Savant (1,215) Aug 8, 2010 Massachusetts

    1) Pilsner
    2) IPA
    3) Saison
    4) Brown Ale
     
  7. thepenguin

    thepenguin Savant (1,215) Aug 8, 2010 Massachusetts

    Ok, but when breweries don't hone their recipes they run the risk of being that musician that *technically* plays 20 different instruments, just none of them very well.
     
  8. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    You don't get to choose your flagships. Whatever your best selling brews are become your flagships.
     
  9. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Uh, most of the breweries around me? They may have 2-6 regulars, and 4-10 rotating brews at a given time.
     
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  10. ElijahSF

    ElijahSF Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2013 California

    4-10 rotating brews at a given time is different than 4-10 different BEER STYLES at a given time.
     
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  11. ElijahSF

    ElijahSF Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2013 California

    Right now they have:

    IPA
    DIPA
    APA
    Imperial Stout
    Belgian Blonde
    Berliner Weisse
    Saison
    ESB
    Dry Irish Stout
     
  12. meb3476

    meb3476 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2013 Massachusetts

    IPA
    Stout
    Porter
    APA
     
  13. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    Pale ale or IPA only one or the other. Preferably something with citra.
    Saison, not an overly hoppy one though and under 4-4.5 % for a nice session able summer beer.
    Brown ale, upslope is a personal favorite, so something similar.
    Imperial stout, need more year round ones.
    And put everything in a can.
     
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  14. ElijahSF

    ElijahSF Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2013 California

    I realize I'll sound biased, but every one of their beers is good to great. They have a 4.15/5 rating here.
     
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  15. MrDave

    MrDave Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2013 California

    APA/IPA
    Pilsner
    Stout
    Berliner Weisse
     
  16. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    My bad; 4-10 rotating beers of different styles at a given time. I was at one of my local breweries yesterday, 13 taps, one of which is cider, so 12 beers. The closest to having two of the same style were a Mosaic single hop and their Rye IPA, and Raspberry and Cranberry sours. Fairly typical around here.
     
  17. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    A brewer friend of mind said this same thing before starting up when I asked him what would be his flagship.
     
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  18. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    This really hits the nail on the head for me. So, I'll promote it and expand on it a little more.

    Pilsener: there is nothing to hide behind here. If you don't have quality control, consistency, good brewmasters and ingredients, and recipes, it won't be good. There is are no boisterous notes to hide behind like a RIS or IPA.

    American Pale Ale: It requires a good ability with hops, and yet it cannot be a hop bomb. I don't care how well you can make a hop bomb if you can't make a quality APA. Especially if you're competing to be one of the best breweries out there.

    American Brown Ale: To be honest, not totally sold on this style, but it does require the opposite skills of APAs, thus creating more credability for a brewery when done right. You can hop stuff up? Great. Now rely on malts and yeast.

    (Russian) Imperial Stout: This is my favorite style, so I'm biased here, but it requires a good knowledge of malts, yeasts, grains, and different aging techniques. If you can age a good RIS, chances are I like you. It's also a fine art, since you don't want to be selling a session burning bourbon.

    IPA: honorable mention for me. I'm not saying they're easy to make right, but I'd rather investigate the ability of a brewery through the above 4 styles. I've had some breweries that make a good IPA, but don't do anything else right. There is a lot to hide behind in an IPA (although the same can be said for a RIS).
     
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  19. FFreak

    FFreak Savant (1,065) Nov 10, 2013 Vermont

    I like the classification system - have one of each:
    - hoppy - APA, IPA, IIPA, hoppy amber, whatever
    - dark - porter, stout, dark Belgian, etc
    - refreshing - pilsner, hefe, saison
    - malty - brown, barleywine, blonde Belgian, etc
     
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  20. aufie

    aufie Zealot (707) Sep 8, 2014 Texas

    I agree but would add another point:

    The breweries that seem to be the most successful and/or profitable, however, don't just have a flagship set of brews. They pick an image--an entire identity as a brewery--and stick to that (examples include Stone: HOPS; Dogfish Head: whatever we want; Jester King: only sours; etc.). It's breweries that waver or waffle back and forth who seem to flounder. Making bad beer is also a surefire way to fail.
     
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