Flagship Beers

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  1. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Pils/Lager
    Amber/Brown (not sweet, but distinctly crisp and dry)
    Pale Ale (cover the bases-nice malt presence with firm, integrated hop kick)
    Porter (like Smuttynose Robust Porter)

    Each with a proprietary name, with style and characteristics noted.
     
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  2. Foyle

    Foyle Maven (1,481) Sep 29, 2007 North Carolina

    ESB
    Cream Ale or a Lager
    English style IPA
    Irish Red or Amber Ale
     
  3. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    Wild Ale
    IPA
    A lager (<6%)
    Stout
     
  4. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Those 9 beers translate to 4 varieties of pale ale, 2 varieties of porter, 2 varieties of Belgian blond, and Berliner Weisse.
    OK, my tongue is a little in my cheek, but it's not all the way in there. :slight_smile:

    Having a flagship and having variety are not mutually exclusive though. Sierra Nevada has a flagship.
    Personally, I like the idea of flagships more than I like the idea of a constant stream of newness.
    Also, while I appreciate variety in one brewery, I don't put a tremendous amount of value in it. Having focus is much preferred. I don't need Allagash to brew an Oktoberfest. They can, but unless they pour lots of energy into it, why should they bother?
     
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  5. tillmac62

    tillmac62 Pooh-Bah (2,859) Oct 2, 2013 South Carolina
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    From the consumer perspective, whatever they can make that is quite outstanding to world class. Quality should be the focus rather than specific styles.
     
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  6. akolb

    akolb Initiate (0) Aug 8, 2015 Colorado

    1. Amber/Red Ale
    2. IPA or Pale Ale
    3. Pilsner
    4. American Brown
     
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  7. Gear54

    Gear54 Initiate (0) Jun 29, 2014 Indiana

    I would have to go with...

    IPA/IIPA everyone does them but if you can do it right I'll be a repeat customer
    Oatmeal Stout
    Any Type of Bock/Dopplebock
    Belgian Strong Ale

    With that lineup and even a mediocre rotation of seasonal or small batch stuff I would never need to go anywhere else. Especially if they can put out a decent sour!
     
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  8. NCMonte

    NCMonte Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2014 North Carolina

    Too many breweries by me have opened up without something the non educated palate can drink. Like a nice light Lager be it amber or not.

    So, IPA (because everyone wants one it seems like)
    Stout (can't make a good, "Car Bomb" without one)
    Pale Ale.

    Probably would have to go that route for starters.
     
  9. Blueribbon666

    Blueribbon666 Pooh-Bah (1,669) Jul 4, 2008 Ohio
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    Honestly, all four have distinctive differences. The top choices in all four of those styles do not taste like one another. I think they are ALL underappreciated as they are heavier malt based styles I like 'em all.
     
  10. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    The key will be providing a variety;
    1. Russian Imperial Stout
    2. Bourbon Barrel Stout
    3. Coffee Breakfast Stout
    4. Oatmeal Stout
     
  11. ecpho

    ecpho Savant (1,183) Mar 28, 2011 New York

    Would love to frequent a brewery with those styles on tap regularly - and for the most part I do. If you make IPA, DIPA, session IPA, half assed sour & imp stout like a lot around NYC, I'm not a customer.
     
  12. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Quite so, there are distinct differences when judging beers within style guidelines, but I don't walk into a place with a BJCP book in hand and flash a style police badge at 'em. If a brewer want's to use Vienna Malt, Fuggles hops and an American Ale yeast I don't care in the least and I care even less what he chooses to call it. My only concern is how well it's made.
     
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  13. joberlander

    joberlander Initiate (0) May 30, 2014 Massachusetts
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    1) DIPA
    2) Saison
    3) RIS
    4) Porter

    For models, I'd love if they were along the lines of

    1) Trillium - Artaic
    2) Goose Island - Sofie
    3) Ten Fidy
    4) Slumbrew Porter Square Porter
     
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  14. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Jack makes a killer CAP. I wish I lived closer to him.
    edit, forgot to play along...
    maibock, seriously.
    APA, anyone can carpet bomb some pils malt with hops, lets see some balance and technique
    dry irish stout
    Ipa, because hop bombs are still tasty.
     
  15. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Whatever 4 styles the head brewer truly loves and has studied and brewed extensively -- as close to the point of mastery as possible.
     
  16. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I am gonna play devil's advocate here, but a brewer may have mastered a style in their eyes, but not in the eyes of others.
     
  17. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Did not say they had truly mastered it. If a brewer truly claims they have, then I may be tempted to try regardless, because even the claim is so rare these days. To quote Shawn Hill, ''well, just fucking make a good porter first.''
     
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  18. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Generally speaking, an American brewer could probably swap the tag of "amber" with the tag of "ESB" on a brew and get away with it... and that isn't a commentary on the lack of expertise of the brewer or consumer, but more about the realities of solid distinctions... or if either of these is even a style at all. Or maybe I'm just being crazy.
     
  19. westcoastbeergeek

    westcoastbeergeek Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2015 Canada (BC)

    Regarding flagship beers, I mean I'd love for some crazy ones but being realistic and within the parameters of a flagship beer this is what I'd like to see style wise.

    1) Saison
    2) Porter/Stout
    3) IPA/APA
    4) Lightly Soured beer like a Gose or Berliner Weisse
     
  20. Ozzylizard

    Ozzylizard Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,419) Oct 5, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    I DO care what it's called, at least for the first round. If it's called an American brown ale I won't order it; if it's called an ESB I will.
     
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