Sensible and Dumb State Beer Laws

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by twistwrist, Jun 28, 2016.

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  1. jvgoor3786

    jvgoor3786 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,222) May 28, 2015 Arkansas
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    In Arkansas you can't buy one single beer. You have to buy at least three at a time off the singles shelves. Bizarre.
     
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  2. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2014 Massachusetts

    Yes, thankfully. My local brand new Big Y has beer and wine. But it's sad that Yankee Spirits had to sell its store in Rockland in order to open a different one (back when the limit was 3). Still, there is no point to this other than to prop up prices for the distributors by reducing buying power.
     
  3. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    When I read something like that I have to wonder just whose interest is being served.
     
  4. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2014 Massachusetts

    I only know my one crazy, first hand experience at Olive Garden in SLC. After driving from San Jose CA (at 100 MPH most of the way), we were thirsty for a beer. Pretty blonde bartender to Olive Garden pointed out some local beer on tap (it was 1999), which we said we'd like and then told us to back ten feet away from the bar so she could pour it. We were confused, but she said no patron could be within 10 feet of the tap handle while she poured. She said some bars had the taps way behind the bar to solve this, but Olive Garden didn't have the space. Weird.
     
  5. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    The 1 license per person rule could actually be a good thing. Where I'm from there aren't many good beer stores. I would definitely prefer a few local stores than one chain.
     
  6. woemad

    woemad Grand Pooh-Bah (5,601) Jun 8, 2003 Washington
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    What he said. It's awesome.
     
  7. deleted_user_1111368

    deleted_user_1111368 Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2016 Delaware

    Now that's an odd one. Except for the seller and the brewery.. who benefits?

    Delaware had a 'Sunday' blue law until about 15 years ago. I still wish they could sell beer in the grocery stores... but overall, I can't complain. A drive to Maryland once or twice a month gives the wife and I something to look forward to.
     
  8. TipsyTito

    TipsyTito Initiate (0) Sep 17, 2015 Pennsylvania

    My local go to distributor also gets a great selection and recently added a large cooler section just for 12 packs after the law passed allowing that. Regarding your case observations, I too see this at my go to place. The upside to my distributor is that they will recognize that making some money on the case is better than none and when the seasons change I can pick-up a $50 case for $20-25 that is still within date for a couple of months, at least. If that wasn't already a plus, the distributor is the go to place for the local college students and they would rather the Natty or Busch so there is always a pretty good selection of reduced price cases.
     
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  9. woemad

    woemad Grand Pooh-Bah (5,601) Jun 8, 2003 Washington
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    My brother fell afoul of the supermarket law. He thought he was doing his Colorado in-laws a solid for their hospitality by picking up some local supermarket beer and his sister-in-law was going, "Why did you buy this?" This was despite the fact she had helpfully said nothing whatsoever about the laws there.
     
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  10. 67couple

    67couple Zealot (695) Jan 31, 2006 South Carolina
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    Can not understand how any state that sells hard alcohol can have a cap on beer abv.
     
  11. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    I can understand how dumb legislation happens but can't understand why.
     
  12. Benish

    Benish Pooh-Bah (2,446) Mar 13, 2013 Utah
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    Utah: ALL draft beer 4.0% ABV. Change will never happen. Utah breweries like Epic, Uinta, Squatters, would never be supportive of the change as this will take away their business of 4.0 draft beers. Utah sucks.
     
  13. TipsyTito

    TipsyTito Initiate (0) Sep 17, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Want to talk about dumb, read through the 2 articles at the below links. It's about the ridiculous Johnstown Flood tax that is placed on alcohol in PA. 80 years of this tax, so far, and I am sure the state has made their money back plus, now its just a free revenue stream.

    General overview of Johnstown Flood tax
    http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion...lood-tax-is-itself-taxed/stories/201604010223

    History of how Johnstown Flood tax came about
    http://vinepair.com/wine-blog/high-price-alcohol-pennsylvania-can-blamed-flood/
     
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  14. MikeP64

    MikeP64 Zealot (661) Jan 24, 2015 South Carolina

    I think the dumbest laws everywhere are the ones that limit your blood alcohol content for driving while most bartenders will serve you until you can't walk...
     
  15. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Yeah, I'm not optimistic we'll be seeing that tax disappear anytime soon given what the money goes to support.

    At least that tax doesn't apply to beer, only wine and spirits sold through the state store system.
     
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  16. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Well, not everywhere. :slight_smile:

    In PA & NJ we have Dram Shop laws in place which motivate bartenders and servers to cut you off when showing visible signs of being intoxicated.
     
  17. Rhymkeeper

    Rhymkeeper Initiate (0) Aug 31, 2014 Alabama

    In Alabama where the laws are improving (albeit very slowly) I decry the three tiered distribution system most of all. Often in restaurants or even grocery stores I can't chose from all of the local breweries because only 1 or two are offered by that venue.
     
  18. mwa423

    mwa423 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2007 Ohio

    Liquor stores. Seriously, in states like Indiana where there are no Sunday liquor sales, the liquor store owners don't want to have to open a seventh day. Most of Indiana's crappy beer laws come from the liquor store lobby because it lines their wallets nicely.

    You can get higher proof beer in Utah, but bottles only, not on draft. If you're drinking at a brewpub, you can drink the higher abv stuff, but the brewery has to sell the beer to the state and buy it back before serving it to you.

    Dumbest laws I can think of off the top of my head:

    -Georgia, Tennessee and a couple others that have time limits on how often different levels of distribution can change price.

    -The Colorado 3.2 law, finally it's gone...sort of...basically it'll phase out over the next decade.

    -I hate the North Carolina law that only lets them serve me one drink at a time. Seriously, just give me two beers.

    -It annoys me that distributors in Ohio generally cannot sell direct to me as a consumer, sometimes I might want fifteen cases for a party or something...

    -I hate any state that requires state approval of alcohol labels.
     
  19. twistwrist

    twistwrist Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2013 Georgia

    It's even worse for someone my size. 120 pounds and probably more than a beer would put me over the .08 limit. And I drink several beers a night, so it takes a hell of a lot of them to impeded my judgement.
    Is the .08 a state or national limit?
     
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  20. twistwrist

    twistwrist Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2013 Georgia

    Ditto. I figured CO would liberal as hell. Weird.
     
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