Maibock "dead guy" clone recipe

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  1. ablemedic49

    ablemedic49 Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2016 Virginia

    Hello BA,

    I am looking at getting into all grain brewing next weekend and I have found a recipe that I would like to try, I will share it below, and tips or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    NOTE: This recipe is somewhat adapted from the original due to ingredients on hand, I will share the link to the original below

    For 5 Gal,

    Malts:

    8 lbs - 2 row Pale malt 1.8°L (I have 10 lbs total)
    2 lbs - Munich Malt 7-10°L
    1 lbs - Crystal Malt 11.7-15.5°L

    Hop additions:

    1 oz Perle @ 90 mins
    1/2 oz Saaz @ 10 mins
    Also 1 tsp Irish moss to clarify @ 20 mins

    Yeast:

    Imperial Organic A18 Joystick

    I will be using a 6.5 gal carboy primary, and 5 gal carboy secondary (if it's needed)

    The original recipe can be found here Dead Guy Clone

    Does my recipe sound good? Any small improvements that can be made? I really want it to be around 6-7% ABV. Also I am told that Maibocks are lagers, so do I actually need to "lager" it? My room temperatures for brewing sit around 70°F. My strain I am using has a threshold of 60-70°F so, is there another strain I could use, or maybe a cheap effective way to keep my carboy cooler during fermentation? Thanks all!

    Cheers!
     
  2. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I've read that Dead Guy is based on a maibock recipe, but I think it perhaps is better described as a homebrew ale recipe that could have passed for maibock in era when homebrewers didn't have access to a variety of high quality import malts. American 2 row and crystal malt are not maibock ingredients. Furthermore, Dead Guy is an ale. I don't know the yeast you are using. Assuming an ale yeast, you would treat it as such, fermenting at ale temp. Most beers benefit from some sort of cold storage (lagering), but if you don't have the space to do it, don't feel bad about skipping it for this one.

    Edit: I'm not critical of your recipe for dead guy inspired ale; I'm critical of the description of dead guy as a maibock and I don't think that characterization should influence your approach
     
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  3. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    If your room temperature is 70 your actual fermentation temperature will be much higher. Likely too high for this yeast strain or most yeast strains that would be appropriate for this style. If you cant get your room temperature down into the mid 60s, Google "swamp cooler" and improvise.
     
  4. ablemedic49

    ablemedic49 Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2016 Virginia


    Not too sure if I can post links to outside forums, but I found some really great examples of swamp coolers via google, most of them are using some sort of large laundry bin/tote of some sort filled with water and ice bottles or packs. Thanks for the tip!

    Cheers! Skål! Prost!
     
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  5. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    That sounds like a swamp cooler. Before I got a fermentation chamber I used a large plastic bucket like what you would use to serve a keg on ice at a party. Fill it will water and add frozen plastic water bottles and then when they start to thaw out switch them with more frozen water bottles. It does the trick but requires some extra effort.

    The first 48 hours are the most important when it comes to fermentation temp and off flavors so if you can plan those first two days when you can kind be around to swap out bottles every few hours or so as opposed to be going 10 hours it will help out a lot. I remember coming home on my lunch and swapping out bottles.

    Always start cooler and let the wort rise as opposed to starting high and then cooling.
     
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  6. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    The recipe in Zymurgy had input from John Maier, the head Brewer at Rogue. So it will have similarities to Dead Guy. It was originally called a Maierbock, as It was John's take on an ale approximation of a Bock.
     
  7. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    If you have a cooler that is large enough to hold your carboy, I would use that. It helps hold the temperature better and it doesn't "sweat" like a tote can.

    For the recipe, I find Saaz to be a "mild" hop, .5oz @10 mins won't do very much. I would go with 1oz so I could taste the Saaz. Skip the secondary and leave it in the primary for 2-3 weeks.
     
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  8. ablemedic49

    ablemedic49 Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2016 Virginia

    You think I should keep it @ the 10 minute mark still though?
     
  9. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    10 minutes is probably a good time for a beer like this, you will get some flavor and aroma, but not a huge amount (especially with a hop like Saaz).
     
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  10. ablemedic49

    ablemedic49 Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2016 Virginia

    Final question,

    Would it be OK to go ahead and mash all 10lbs of my 2 row malt? I know the recipe called for 8 but I'd like a higher OG and hopefully finishing ABV.

    Cheers!
     
  11. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    You'd be fine with 10lbs as long as your mash tun volume is not limiting
     
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  12. ablemedic49

    ablemedic49 Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2016 Virginia

    OK, it's a 55 qt rectangular, so I think I should be fine. Thanks!
     
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