Refunds for 2015 Regular BCBS and 2015 Prop

In addition to refrigerator space, here's what I'm adding to my list:

• time spent researching which stores to buy BCBS at
• time I spent thinking about how to go about researching
• time I spent on the phone with stores to find out when they are getting shipments in
• time I spent in the stores talking to them about when stuff is coming in
• time spend reading this thread due to pain and suffering
• time spent calculating my time (this seems like it may be a never ending loop)
• time spent moving around all my boxes in my cellar due to buying so much BCBS (it's clearly their fault I bought so much)

I figure I should make out VERY nicely in this ordeal.

 

Yes, someone who obtains and purchases 60 BCBS's certainly is a hoarder in my eyes. Yes, in hindsight I certainly was not being prudent. However, they stated no other refunds were to be given, and the initial refund had no such requirements. So it's not out of the ordinary to assume that a majority of bourbon country drinkers (not even on internet forums) have opened, drank a bad bottle, and then tossed it out. These people, who are more like the typical consumer of this product will be getting zero reimbursement.

 

Thank you for resorting to insults. I am just not sure what folks like you expect. GI is now refunding, based on science, what they have found to be beer not in line with their expectations, providing a reasonable window to do it, providing a reasonably easy way. To expect them to pay above what was the MSRP is nothing short of absurd. That was your decision to pay it. Pricing was MSRP in NC. So if you scalp tickets and the event is cancelled--are you expecting a refund for the amount you paid? I cannot believe it--well wait, after reading these last 40 pages, I can.

Some folks don't have their bottles anymore but candidly this seems as fair as they could make it. A pure honor system would be ridiculous for this. I cannot wait--well I can-- to see how many piss and moans will now come out. I paid more, I traded much more expensive stuff for it, I waited all day, my bottles were thrown away........

Seems GI did the right thing overall and kudos to them. Did it take too long? Was info too slow? I don't know. The fact that I have read more good than bad experiences for the BCBS (as was my limited experience) substantiates their efforts to nail down what to "refund." It could/can never be perfect.

Now how many of the whiners will be back in line this November?????

 

All of them, otherwise they'd miss out on beer, and more importantly to them, new things to complain about.

 

you're not going to claim the parking ticket you got while waiting in line?????????????????

 

Now it's getting fun!!!

 

There's a huge difference between aging & hoarding. I actually think BCS is a routinely good barrel-aged stout fresh, but with a few years turns into something magical...I verified this by drinking one fresh & having a 2012 shortly thereafter early this year. The fresh one was fine, the 2012 was one of the best beers I can remember having. It's easy to throw around labels, but they're almost always inaccurate (I bought four bottles total, by the way...is that hoarding?).

 

Of my 7 reg bcbs left not one is on recall. All 11/6 & 11/10. All purchased in Chicago. Only one infected is my prop and I'm certainly not jumping through all theses hoops for $15. Any word on either of those dates being infected?

 

That's his MO

 

After things like the 2013 (I think?) Costco/Walgreens debacle with folks just buying up cases of variants, this community will always be sensitive to the hoarding factor. We have all, at one event or another, had to stand in line next to the guy loudly talking about how he has 30 BA Abraxas or whatever stashed away in his parents' basement.

2012 was one of the best batches of BCBS so far, right? I need to crack a 2013 and see how it is coming along...

The good news with all this is that it is somehow already the middle of July and we're only a couple months away from a ton of fresh new 2016 BCBS. And maybe the infection issues this year will keep any actual hoarders from too crazy.

 

Again, we're talking about what is "reasonable". It seems absurd to me that, when people are made aware of a product that they have purchased being potentially defective, they wouldn't think that they should possibly save that product, or at the very least, the packaging of that product to prove that they, in fact, bought/owned that product in the off chance that refunds were coming.

To me, it was just common sense--I thought I should probably save any BCBS bottle I had just in case. ESPECIALLY given the knowledge we had about refunds being previously offered. In other words, I wanted to have my bases covered in case something new developed.

I can certainly appreciate the hassle of finding storage space in a small apartment, but I don't know that a company should be expected to decide on refund processes based on the storage space problems that some customers might have. Bottles are, by far, the most efficient way to handle refunds while also ensuring there is no double-dipping going on. Hell, in other product recalls--which some people (not you) have been fond of referencing--the product is REQUIRED to be returned for any compensation from the recall. In this case, you can even drink the damn beer inside and get a refund.

It simply boggles my mind that there is outrage on this particular fact.

Says one of the angriest guys in the thread.

 

I got 9 bottles of regular from the 11/5/15 batch. Monday I will be stopping at the Post office.

 

I was never pointing fingers at anyone as a hoarder or even implying its a negative thing. Simply stating that those who have hoarded it or are hoarding it (which just means anyone who has put some away or aside) can safely collect refunds. Whereas those who purchased it to enjoy in the near future, or even those who opened them up faster after all this nonsense can not.

And no, don't worry your four bottle purchase is not hoarding. Even if you did hoard cases of it more power to you if you are drinking and sharing and aging them well.

 

I bought 12 bottles of BCBS in 2015. Thankfully, I didn't have any that were off, but if I had, there's no chance I would've saved 12 bottles in my apartment. No where to put them and I wouldn't have thought to save the labels either. By any reasonable person's standards, the receipt is the best proof of purchase. It's better than a barcode or a label. When's the last time you went to the store to return something and you offered up the product/barcodes/labels with no receipt and received a cash refund?

I think it's fine that they are accepting labels as a proof of purchase, but there's no reason that a receipt shouldn't be accepted too. And if that leads to some sort of fraud by dishonest people who want to jump through hoops to scam a small amount of money, that shouldn't be at the expense of the honest customer. If they want to take extra precautions, require the original receipt for those that don't have the label. Scan the receipts and track them. They can do whatever they want, but don't inconvenience good customers further. Besides, it's not like there's any dispute on Prop '15. I'm pretty certain they only bottled that on one day and have made the assumption that ALL bottles are infected, so why not accept receipts for Prop '15?

 

Perhaps that wasn't your intent, but the word "hoarder" is conventionally used to be a negative characteristic and it was applied to the multiple people covered by your blanket statement.

 

dude call them, explain your predicament. if they tell you to f-off then come back & complain about that.

 

I have not tried calling them (yet), but I did explain my predicament to them through Facebook and their response pretty much was, "tough luck, this is our policy." So...there's that.

 

I called and told them I recycled the bottles already and they basically told me to f-off.

 

Amazing how many know-it-alls are in this thread. Condescending remarks, insults, gotta love this elitist BA community here.

Next time there is a $25 bottle of infected beer that you bought a case of, just accept the fact that you wasted money and don't say anything or complain about it

 

I didn't realize Prop '15 was sold in NY? And you admit to be accepting of the risk for bad bottles of Prop '15 in trying to seek them out via trade but now that GI is offering refunds which don't suit your particular situation you're up in arms.