Low ABV in U.S. beer to be popularized in the future?

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  1. dgmirelli

    dgmirelli Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2015 New York

    been trying to find the low alcohol beer for me going forward, low alcohol = lower cals which is the direction I need to go, still find it impossible for bud light etc, still want a beer.
     
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  2. TonyLema1

    TonyLema1 Pooh-Bah (2,890) Nov 19, 2008 South Carolina
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    God, I hope not
     
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  3. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I'd just like to see more lower ABV craft - as in 4-6% instead of 10%+. I don't drink to get drunk, and tire of beers that I'd like to try being 10%+ ABV and only available in a bomber. Some of these can be the equivalent of a typical macro six pack. As I am the only drinker in the house, any beer I try will be consumed in a sitting though sometimes I do stopper it and drink it over several hours. Same goes for 12oz beers that are 12%+, too much alcohol. No, I don't want near beer but I don't need to get drunk on one beer either.
     
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  4. Pantalones

    Pantalones Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2014 Virginia

    I'd be all for more 3-to-4% ABV beers that actually tasted good. I've had a few (some gose, Berliner weisse, and English styles) but they're definitely not easy to find in stores -- half of the really-low-ABV beers that I've had were on tap at the brewery and unavailable anywhere else.

    Almost every time I read comments on the Internet, I become more and more glad that I don't have this ridiculous "nobody could possibly think differently than me, and anyone who says they do is lying (and/or crazy)!" mindset that seems to have infected so many people.
     
  5. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire

    Odd that you didn't say you would be all for more 0% abv beers.

    I don't have that either but alcohol does play into flavor profile and if it weren't at all a factor no one would be here.

    I know it's cool to say taste is what is king and even if alcohol weren't involv.... Its utter bullshit. You wouldn't drink beer if it werent for the impact the alcohol has on the flavor profile and the effect it has. Slight glow to blackout. Doesnt matter what your goal is. ZERO people drink alcoholic beverages regularly with it having nothing to do with the alcohol.
     
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  6. Jsteez

    Jsteez Savant (1,233) Apr 28, 2012 Utah

    Everything you said made me think of my home state's ABV laws. I am from Utah (currently living in South Korea) and the local Mormon theocracy has capped beer sold in supermarkets and convenience stores at no more than 4% ABV (or 3.2% by weight). So the local breweries (Uinta, Squatter's, Wasatch, Epic, Bohemian, just to name a few) have been making a variety of styles at low ABV since the 1980s-1990s. Some examples of styles are pale ales, session IPAs, pilsners, kolsch, Vienna lagers, stouts, porters, etc. Some of these beers are very flavorful and are not considered light beers. Good stuff. Cheers!
     
  7. Jsteez

    Jsteez Savant (1,233) Apr 28, 2012 Utah

    That would be great if more breweries made some decent English Milds. I really like that style. I love higher ABV beers, but in the end, I'm always going to reach for the lower ABV beers.
     
  8. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    I really do not want any beer lower than 4.5 percent.
     
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  9. drmeto

    drmeto Pooh-Bah (2,402) Jan 29, 2015 Germany
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    Just had "Moritz Fiege Sommerhopfen",basically a dry-hopped light Pilsener, which was great at 2.6%.
     
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  10. Dredgy

    Dredgy Initiate (0) Jun 1, 2016 Australia

    It's very popular here already (Australia) - light and mid (3.5%) beer is probably the majority of liquor sales in this state. The mid-strength amber ale that is made for my restaurant is our highest seller by a wide margin, with mid-strength macros being 3rd and 5th. The light option (2.6%) comes in 6th. Some ultra-light stuff (~0.9%) is making the rounds and I was given tasting samples and refused to stock, they're disgusting (to be fair, have not tried all, or even most, of the options)

    But if I had 10 of them in one hour, I'd still be safe to drive home, and ALOT of people have to drive home from a night out. The market is huge.
     
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  11. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Well,you are missing out a LOT of excellent beers. Especially if on cask where a 4.5% beer can drink like a 6% bottled beer.
     
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  12. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    Honestly if there is no alcohol in it, I am in the what's the point camp. beer has to something in it. Smuttynose hayseed was my favorite low abv beer, a saison .
     
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  13. Shanex

    Shanex Grand Pooh-Bah (4,960) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    The main advantage of anything under 4% is to be able to drink two or three, depending on your physic and still drive legally and safely, after a night out. I love Boston Lager and it's under 5%. The other good thing is their drinkability and refreshing effects especially during summer. Drinking something heavy only if I'm home farting around and with no intention of going out again.
     
  14. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I didn't either until I had a Lindeman Framboise. Wow. Sure, could take a bit more alcohol, but this stuff is worth the sacrifice.
     
  15. mfowler314

    mfowler314 Devotee (375) Aug 12, 2015 New York

    In 2005 I was in Prague for a semester as a visiting professor. My office mate took my family out for a driving tour around the area, during which we went out for dinner. He had a non-alcoholic beer with dinner and when I asked about this he said that the drunk driving laws are so strict in Czech Republic that you pretty much HAVE to drink non-alcoholic beer when driving. This was from a guy who pretty much lived for drinking beer, based on what I'd seen when he and I went out to bars but were walking.

    To somewhat verify the accuracy of my memory, I found this: http://www.globalmalt.de/czech-repu...ol-free-beer-sales-increased-in-2009/?lang=ru

    Basically it says that in 2009 the total beer output dropped in Czech Republic but the amount of non-alcohol beer increased.

    Probably would never happen in the US for non-alcoholic beer production to rise much because I doubt we'd ever have zero-tolerance drunk driving laws... but having more good-tasting options in the 3.5 - 4.5 range might become more of a trend. I keep my fridge well-filled with Yards Brawler at 4.2% because I like being able to grab a low-abv brew when I want a beer but don't want to feel too much alcohol effect.
     
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  16. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    Ummm...are you sure? Berliner Weiss, Gose, Helles Lagers...
     
  17. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    Bill! The helles lager starts at 4.7% I like gose. I do not care for the light lager. 4.2% Nor the session IPA either 4.2 % again. I don't want 3.8% at all. That is what I am basically saying. Put something in the beer. it has to be alcohol if there's malt in the beer.
     
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  18. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    This one's 4.3 : https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/263/29145/

    There's quite a few under 4.7%abv but most aren't widely distributed. Sigh.
     
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  19. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Yes. They will. People always forget the most base fact of all.
    There is room for everything.
    As our palate expands beyond the mono culture it is rapidly evolving from. This will become a big driver for craft beer as well.
     
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  20. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    It's a simple combo that sells well:
    low price
    low ABV
    low bitterness/mild flavors

    Anything that fits those 3 will market to the masses. Just look at Leinenkugel's Summer Shandy. Introduced in 2007. From another article I read that single drink outsells Deschutes entire portfolio of beers nationally distributed, and a few other larger brewers. I'd bet that hardly anyone even heard of Leinenkugels before 2007, and I'd bet none of those people drinking them in mass quantities ever heard of the term shandy before either or probably still don't know what the term means. Yet the non-adventurous masses took to a new brewer and new type of beverage without any issues. It hits the 3 checklist points above.

    4 packs or large bottle formats of low ABV selling for $10+ will never attract a large audience. Just us beer nerds if it tastes good.
     
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